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Old December 19, 2001, 09:47 PM   #1
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32 S&W dies

i have an old 32 S&W colt pocket positive on the way, yet i can't find any 32 dies, are the 32 s&w long dies what i should use, isn't there a little difference in the diameter of the brass?

32 s&w .339 diameter
32 s&w .337 (according to Lyman)

the old 32 s&w shell i have here measures .334, factory

thanks again
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Old December 19, 2001, 10:22 PM   #2
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JJ,

We just had a discussion about that, over on the outdoors forum.

http://www.outdoors.net/forums/index...rivateForum=OK

Hornady lists a die set for the 32 S&W short, long, and 32 H&R magnum.

Others may also offer similar sets, but if you buy the dies for 32 S&W (short), it should be fine for the 32 S&W Long and the magnum as well.

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Old December 19, 2001, 11:17 PM   #3
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If you get dies for the .32 S&W long, you good for all three. If they are specificaly for the .32 S&W (short), die may not be deep enough to do the longer cases.

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Old December 19, 2001, 11:31 PM   #4
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I am using the Redding Pro Series for 32 SW Long. They also are for the 32 HR Magnum according to their package. Don't know if they can handle the short though.
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Old December 19, 2001, 11:47 PM   #5
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Yes, you can use .32 Long dies to load the .32 S&W.

And, just to be completely pedantic about this, there's no such critter as the .32 S&W Short.

It's just the .32 S&W.
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Old December 20, 2001, 12:07 AM   #6
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Mike,

Next your going to tell me there is no 45 Long Colt!

Seriously, I only mentioned the 32 S&W Short, because the Hornady die chart lists it that way, and who am I to argue with Hornady?

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Old December 20, 2001, 12:45 AM   #7
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I put (short) in parenthezzs just in case Mike was watchin.

Sam, may be old but at least I'm slow.
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Old December 20, 2001, 01:43 AM   #8
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Bill,

I've fought that battle before, and I contend that since Colt has referred to the .45 Colt as the .45 Long Colt, that nomenclature has more than a little bit of legitimacy to it.

S&W has never referred to the .32 S&W as that, just as they have never referred to the .38 S&W as the .38 S&W Short.
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Old December 20, 2001, 02:54 AM   #9
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Mike,

We have lot's of support in the industry for the 45 Long Colt nomenclature.

Wouldn't be the first time that nomenclature was changed by popular demand!

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Old December 20, 2001, 03:07 AM   #10
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Bill,

Then it was popular demand of 100 years or more ago that changed it. Colt certainly didn't start referring to the cartridge by a different name last week.
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Old December 20, 2001, 09:21 AM   #11
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Well,
Fortunately or unfortunately, .32SW and .32SW Short are used by many to refer to the same cartridge. Doesn't make it right or wrong.

Just adds to the confusion of those in a confused state...like me.

Besides, SW is dead anyway.
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Old December 20, 2001, 01:43 PM   #12
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hey guys
I have a H&R model 732 chambered in 32 S&W LONG.
32 S&W shorts can be fired in it but I also have an H&R that has no model number on it but it states on the barrel 32 S&W SHORT.
I reload for both with dies for the 32S&W LONG.
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Old December 20, 2001, 05:51 PM   #13
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Clark cartridge nomenclature verification. If it fits, shoot it. If it didn't break....shoot it again.

Clark's testing is a lot more scientific than that. Have learned from him.

Seriously tho.....some of the older guns had through bored cylinders with no limiting step in the chamber. Thus, many guns designed for .38S&W will chamber and fire .38 special and .357mag. Very unsafe. Same problem may be encountered in other older guns of different calibers and an assortment of cartridge lengths.

Soooo....though your dies will handle multiple lengths of cases, be sure you are loading the proper cartridge and load for your gun. And don't use loading data for one length case in one of different length.

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Old December 21, 2001, 09:05 AM   #14
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amen!!!
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