The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Tactics and Training

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 2, 2001, 12:47 PM   #1
LASur5r+P
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 28, 2001
Location: soCal,Republic of
Posts: 111
Back up weapons?

If for some reason you could not access your firearms to defend yourself, what other weapon (s) would you choose to use?

I have kukris and tomahwawks placed strategically throughout the house, besides some fixed blades.

Care to share?
__________________
proud to be an American.
LASur5r+P is offline  
Old December 2, 2001, 01:17 PM   #2
David Scott
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 11, 2000
Posts: 2,457
I always have this handy:



We also have an old police night stick, plus I have a walking stick almost 4 feet log and 1.5" thick, cut from Texas oak and hand carved by my sister in law. It's practically a quarterstaff.

Mace/OC spray would be a good idea, too.
__________________
"As I looked at my two young sons, each with his gun, and considered how much the safety of the party depended on these little fellows, I felt grateful to you, dear husband, for having acquainted them in childhood with the use of firearms."

-- Elisabeth Robinson, in The Swiss Family Robinson by Johann Wyss
David Scott is offline  
Old December 2, 2001, 02:36 PM   #3
C.R.Sam
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 29, 1999
Location: Dewey, AZ
Posts: 12,859
My canes and "gentlemans walking sticks" are quite good weapons.

Sam
C.R.Sam is offline  
Old December 5, 2001, 03:14 PM   #4
MW740
Member
 
Join Date: November 24, 2001
Posts: 95
I never leave home wiithout a tactical folder clipped to my pocket. Either a Benchmade or a Ken Onion Kershaw.
MW740 is offline  
Old December 5, 2001, 03:31 PM   #5
BigG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 19, 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,302
A tire iron.
__________________
o "The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching." Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC

o "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain

o "They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?" Paul Harvey

o TODAY WE CARVE OUT OUR OWN OMENS! Leonidas, Thermopylae, 480 BC
BigG is offline  
Old December 5, 2001, 04:21 PM   #6
David Park
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 29, 2001
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 1,224
knives, OC spray, Honda CR-V, heavy objects, hands, feet, teeth, etc.
David Park is offline  
Old December 5, 2001, 04:22 PM   #7
Phillip
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 27, 1999
Location: TX
Posts: 403
For immediate use (not including firearms) I have:
26" ASP, 1lb "riot extinguisher" OC fogger, a host of Emerson knives (Commanders being my favorite), a HI Kumar made Ang Kola 16", a GH Chainpur, a Cold Steel San Mai Tanto, 3 Pacific Cutlery Kuzan Oda Tantos, a purpleheart tanto made by my girlfriend, a white oak jo and boken, 6' bo, and a hand made shira zaya style wakazashi (diamond wood scabbard and handle with high carbon blade).
I have way too much stuff, not that I'm complaining mind you.
Phillip is offline  
Old December 5, 2001, 06:20 PM   #8
PaladinVC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 10, 2001
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 236
In my home I have a variety of swords(mostly practical) and sharp implements. I have moderate training with nunchaku, which are in my bag by the bed, and I'm big. Out walking, I always have a mini-maglite(wanna-be kubotan, if push comes to shove), and my Leatherman Wave, which features one-handed opening of the blades. And the eyeball lasers, of course. Can't forget those.
__________________
Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges.
—The more corrupt the state is, the more numerous are the laws.
(Tacitus, Annales)
PaladinVC is offline  
Old December 6, 2001, 08:34 PM   #9
Dead Logic
Junior Member
 
Join Date: December 4, 2001
Posts: 13
Besides the wicked Taekwando aerial kicks I can pull off, I do have two Japanese swords at my place of residence.

In terms of walking about, I have two small Ice-Picks concealed on my persona. Or call them thick needles with a handle if you want. They're easy to put into clothing, and gives you a huge advantage in Melee combat. Mine have a handle to grab while making a fist with it, then a Metallic needle point that extends about 3 or 4 inches. I just punch, block, and attack normally while holding them.

Then I also have the option of using these things. A quick back fist to the side of someone's head will end it, in a flash. You are not coming up from an Ice-Pick in your temple.
Dead Logic is offline  
Old December 8, 2001, 08:20 AM   #10
Tamara
Moderator Emeritus
 
Join Date: March 11, 2000
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 15,930
Around the house are:

A katana
A very large spear
A 24" ASP
Many, many, many knives...
__________________
MOLON LABE!
2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium.
The Arms Room: An Online Museum.
Tamara is offline  
Old December 8, 2001, 09:29 AM   #11
CrociJA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 4, 1999
Location: Alachua, FL., USA
Posts: 236
As usual I am outdone!
Only thing I'm really thinking of purchasing is one of those bedside "holsters" that fits between the mattress and frame.
Once that's done maybe an Alltell cellphone.
Other than that I tend towards "non-lethal" equipment in the cars and as for bladed weapons they number maybe four.
Have to get a gunsafe before I move the lions share of my stock up with me. Even my CCW piece is an another room.
But if I can get one of those bed holsters it'll be moved.
When I'm out walking or at work I have a Super Leatherman, a Spyderco Endura and a Tool-Logic in the wallet. Be nice to carry concealed but I don't think the Provost Marshall would buy off on it!

Jon
__________________
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."
WB Yeats
CrociJA is offline  
Old December 8, 2001, 04:14 PM   #12
zot
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 2, 1999
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 566
in my truck, tire iron, WD-40, starting fluid and a Bic, nice flame thrower,keys, and the truck itself makes a good weapon.also
Berreta 950, some bayo from germany, screw driver, ball peen hammer, old peanuts in glove box could blind, on and on
zot is offline  
Old December 10, 2001, 04:17 PM   #13
Rickmeister
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 23, 2001
Location: Texas
Posts: 797
Garlic, wolfbane, a crucifix...

Seriously, I'd hold my Swiss army knife tightly inside my fist with the awl punch sticking out between the middle and ring finger, and then do what the paleontologist in Jurassic Park did when he scares the living s*** out of that fat little kid who said raptors looked like overgrown turkeys
__________________
NRA Lifer
Rickmeister is offline  
Old December 12, 2001, 11:05 AM   #14
Joe Demko
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 14, 2000
Posts: 1,143
Let me take inventory...a Spyderco Police Model (smooth edge), a Spyderco Harpy (bowels in or bowels out?), a Kubotan, Fox pepper spray, hands, feet, knees, teeth, my mind. These are the things I have here with me, though my wife might tell you I lost my mind some time ago.
Joe Demko is offline  
Old December 12, 2001, 01:14 PM   #15
voodoo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 18, 1999
Posts: 140
Back-up weapons???

1) My wife (and her Glock 19)
2) My 80lb. "puppy"
3) Knives, knives, and more, knives. (I'm a huge knifenut!)
4) Myself (I am trained in martial arts)
voodoo is offline  
Old December 12, 2001, 03:47 PM   #16
Dr.Rob
Staff Alumnus
 
Join Date: July 28, 1999
Location: Denver
Posts: 2,454
Oh you mean besides the Navy Cutlass, Cold steel tanto, Louisville slugger, Fire axe (yeah I have a fire axe), sock full of lug nuts, and drawer full of kitchen utensils... NOT to mention the cast iron skillet on the stove.

Anything can be used as a weapon.
__________________
You broke into the wrong Rec Room!
Dr.Rob is offline  
Old December 12, 2001, 05:34 PM   #17
Double Naught Spy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 8, 2001
Location: Forestburg, Montague County, Texas
Posts: 10,344
Two cars, one tractor, one lawn mower, a weed wacker from hell, two drills, and a Dremil.
__________________
"If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher."
-- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011
Double Naught Spy is online now  
Old December 13, 2001, 01:24 PM   #18
ankara36
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 25, 2001
Posts: 257
An 1870’s vintage German Heavy Cavalry Sabre. Solingen steel is the best. When I was a kid a was able to chip a 1/8” by 1” bar stock with it without damaging the blade. Not on purpose, of course, my buddy and I were mock fighting with it and a homemade bar stock steel sword (stupid kids!).

Burmese Kukri knife, about 24” long. Allegedly could split a Jap’s head down to his neck, even with a helmet on.

A 16th Century Spanish halberd.

A variety of knives, nunchucks, etc.
ankara36 is offline  
Old December 13, 2001, 02:16 PM   #19
Charlie Fox
Member
 
Join Date: January 25, 2001
Location: North Charleston SC
Posts: 64
I think its always best to go with several layers in your defensive set - I carry an ASP Key Defender (kubotan + OC = a winner), an older 16" ASP, a Spyderco Endura 50/50, either a Glock 22 or a Kel Tec P40, my cell phone, and last but not least, a good pair of running shoes!
__________________
"Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
Charlie Fox is offline  
Old December 14, 2001, 01:12 AM   #20
striderteen
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 14, 2001
Location: Pasadena, California
Posts: 590
Hmm...being in college, I don't have access to firearms. That being the case, I'm limited to blades. I never go anywhere without my Leatherman multi-tool, and I often have a 35-inch fencing sword on me as well.
striderteen is offline  
Old December 16, 2001, 10:31 PM   #21
LASur5r+P
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 28, 2001
Location: soCal,Republic of
Posts: 111
Thanks, folks

That's a pretty good list, folks.

I have a buddy that carries a hard bar of soap in a sock...he learned that from spending time in one of our controlled environment facilities. After use in SD, he can easily alter the weapon.
__________________
proud to be an American.
LASur5r+P is offline  
Old December 18, 2001, 01:34 AM   #22
OF
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 11, 2000
Posts: 2,239
...and make a clean getaway? ......sorry, couldn't resist.
- Gabe
OF is offline  
Old December 18, 2001, 07:58 PM   #23
Hard Ball
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 28, 1999
Location: California
Posts: 3,925
I have a genuine Japanese Katana I aquired in Japan many years ago. I trained in Iado for a while. The sword dates from around 1600 but it is so sharp it makes a razor look dull, and as the Japanese say "He who is struck once with a good sword will seldom need striking again!"
__________________
"I swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemeis domestic or foreign WHOMSOEVER."
Hard Ball is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.12674 seconds with 7 queries