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Old July 30, 2001, 05:08 PM   #1
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Best Gun Lubricant?

I have been told that Militec-1 and TW-25B are some of the best firearms lubricants; which one is considered best or are there others which are better? I noticed that Militec-1 is manufactured by a knife company while TW-25B is made by a company that makes firearms cleaning supplies. Any thoughts?
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Old July 30, 2001, 07:15 PM   #2
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I've alwaysed used Breakfree. It's a good all purpose cleaner and lubricant - but a buddy of mine who knows about chemicals said it doesnt protect the gun like oil. It's great stuff for cleaning and lubing tho.
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Old July 30, 2001, 08:52 PM   #3
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Breakfree CLP= Cleans + Lubricates + Protects

From what I've seen first hand, and from studies I've read, it does all three very well. There may be better things, but we're splittin hairs here.
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Old July 30, 2001, 08:52 PM   #4
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Old July 30, 2001, 09:25 PM   #5
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EEZOX Cleans + Lubricates + Protects
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Old July 30, 2001, 09:39 PM   #6
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Been using TW-25B for about 8 years...

Smells kinda iffy, but it holds up really well in my 1911's, Luger, S&W M-52, Buckmark, Steyr-Hahn, and Czech CZ-52. I noticed after a couple seasons of IPSC that my Limited Class gun's frame rails didn't show quite the amount of wear they had when I was just using Breakfree CLP before.
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Old July 30, 2001, 10:08 PM   #7
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Since this is a best lubricant thread, my vote is grease.

Eezox: It could very well be the best stuff on the planet, but it smells like you know what, and it really does make me sick inhaling the vapors of Eezox. I tried it one time, and threw the whole dang bottle in the trash.

Breakfree: When did they change the color to a faded out very light green color. It used to be a faded out very light yellow color. I guess it was when they changed the formula to smell better. And I am getting tired of shaking the heck out of the stuff every time I have to use it. Put it in a clear bottle, and you will see what I mean.

Ballistol: I have yet to try this stuff. It might me the best thing since sliced bread. Has anybody tested the rust protection properties of Ballistol yet?

Militec-1: This one always makes me laugh. I bake bread, not guns and knives.
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Old July 30, 2001, 10:19 PM   #8
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I have been using Mobil 1 15-50 or Mobil 1 with 20% STP or Mobil 1 eveywhere but Lubriplate on the rails. All seem to work ok. I don't think using the 20% STP would be wise when using your weapon during cold weather.
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Old July 30, 2001, 10:36 PM   #9
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CLP/Breakfree. The end.
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Old July 30, 2001, 11:12 PM   #10
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I've been conducting extensive tests on firearms lubricants for the last seven years, I have tried almost everything out there, and the best products IMHO are:

Break Free CLP - The most tested, and most widely used gun care product in the world, proven safe and effective for all firearms. $6.15 for a 12 ounce can at: www.midsouthshooterssupply.com

Wilson Ultima-Lube oil and grease - The best lube I've ever tested and used. Stays put and lasts a long time, significantly reduces wear and fouling, resists water-washout and high temps. Actually made by a company called Protec, which sells it under it's own label. www.wilsoncombat.com www.ProTecLubricants.com

Other notable products:
Corrosion X www.corrosionx.com
Tetra Gun Grease www.tetraproducts.com
Millcomm/Kleenbore TW-25B Ask drcohen!
Eezox 1-800-462-3331
Shooters Choice/MPC FP-10 www.mpc-home.com www.kleenbore.com
G96 Gun Treatment www.g96products.com

Products that I tested and didn't care for:
Mpro7 Gun Lube
Militec-1
X1R
Rem Oil
Sentry Solutions Smooth Kote

Feel free to E-mail me with questions or data requests .

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Old July 31, 2001, 07:11 AM   #11
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Tetra Gun Grease for cleaning and lubricating the parts than use a coat of Nyoil to protect the outside when stored.
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Old July 31, 2001, 08:07 AM   #12
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I noticed that Breakfree has a couple of products, the one that cleans, lubes and protects, and another that is made exclusively for automatics, Breakfree Lubricant; it doesn't clean, just lubricates and protects. Personally, I prefer to clean with a separate solvent then lubricate. I find it hard to believe you can achieve exellent lubrication qualities with a product that cleans and lubricates at the same time.
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Old July 31, 2001, 08:59 AM   #13
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My favorite firearm lubricant is a quality synthetic grease, such as RIG +P Stainless Lube, Gold Wonder Lube, etc.

In the oil catagory, BreakFree CLP and Eezox are my current favorites. FWIW, I actually like the smell of Eezox. Since the formula change I find I don't have to shake BreakFree CLP as much as before.

TW-25B is a good lube too.

I have tried but I have been unimpressed with Militec-1. RemOil is not bad but is a bit thin for my tastes.
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Old July 31, 2001, 02:19 PM   #14
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On my handguns I've been using Super-Lube. They sell two types: an "oil" that is a thick oil/thin grease. And a heavy grease.
These are clear/white synthetic Teflon bearing lubes. The oil stays put and is good from 60 degrees below to 450 above.
I found this at Lowes and K-Mart in a spray can. The can is labeled as a spray-on grease, but the company describes it as an oil.
For FREE samples of the oil and grease go to:

www.super-lube.com

Lately, I've gone back to CLP Break-free on my AR, but still use grease on other rifles.
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Old July 31, 2001, 03:23 PM   #15
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FYI- Break Free LP actually scores lower on lubricant wear tests than original Break Free CLP, hard to believe, but true.
I just purchased a new can of Break Free CLP, and it looks and smells the same as a can I bought in 1989. A light amber color. Break Free has a few new products like Extreme Sports Lube and Collector which are a light green color. As long as you shake it before use, it works great. The military had problems with this, particularly with the M60, when I was in, because the troops were too lazy or stupid to shake it before use. Very few people in the service have ever fired a weapon outside of the military.
Super Lube is a pretty good product. It was tested by the 10 SFG in the late 80's, and found to be good in a maritime environment. It doesn't lube as well as Tetra or TW25B, nor does it protect as well as Break Free CLP.
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Old July 31, 2001, 07:39 PM   #16
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Old July 31, 2001, 10:07 PM   #17
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A little super unleaded gas should get them nice and clean.
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Old July 31, 2001, 10:53 PM   #18
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Hornady dry-lube has been working well in all of my weapons. Less trouble with the dust and sand out here.
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Old August 1, 2001, 07:02 AM   #19
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The U.S. military uses break free on its M60 machine guns. I have also used the Military LSA fluid that was originally developed for the M16 rifle. I also grease all pressure points with Lubra-plate. This grease goes all the way back to WWII. It was issued with the MI service rifle. It is extremely waterproof and can be purchased at most bearing houses. W.R.
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Old August 1, 2001, 01:32 PM   #20
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I use Rem Oil w/teflon on all my semi-autos, a little on the end of a q-tip, wipe the rails and other areas and have never had a problem.
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Old August 1, 2001, 02:17 PM   #21
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Kellube. It's made by that father-son gunsmith team in Northern Indiana. It's the only stuff I've found that won't burn off when you shoot all day (6+ hours). I think Springfield still uses it.
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Old August 1, 2001, 02:34 PM   #22
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I've seen other products out there that have as part of their name "CLP". Are these the same as Break Free CLP? Or is the original the only way to go?

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Old August 1, 2001, 10:59 PM   #23
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Break Free CLP is indeed the best "CLP" out there. The current U.S. military issue CLP made by Royal Lubricants doesn't work as well. Break Free CLP has quality control measures and in depth test data far and above the likes of any other product out there. It is currently issued to the military forces of 28 nations, along with hundreds of police departments worldwide. It is compatible, effective, and safe to use on any weapon you have. It is a far better product than Rem Oil, both in the lab and on the street.
The bottom line is, while Break Free CLP isn't the "best" lube out there, it is a sure and safe bet, and the standard by which I personally judge the new products I test.
www.break-free.com

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Old August 1, 2001, 11:32 PM   #24
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There are many different tests used to determine the lubricity and strength
of oil and grease, which are conducted by private firms like Falex, in
accordince with American Society of Testing Methods standards.
The problem with using data like this is many companies refuse to provide
data(RemOil, G96, Mpro7) while others may use the metric measurements vs.
standard. They don't want you comparing data.
Here's some data on weld load(ASTM-2596, ASTM-2783). The higher the number,
the better the lube:
Break Free CLP--315kg
Tetra Gun Grease--800kg
Militec1--800kg
MilCommTW25B--620kg
Super Lube--250kg
ShootersChoice(MPC) FP-10--720kg

Here's some wear test data(ASTM-4172). The smaller the number, the better
the lube:
Break Free CLP .8mm
MilCommTW25B .042mm
CorrosionX .58mm

Here's some corrosion resistance test data(ASTM-1748). The higher the
number, the better the protection:
Break Free CLP- 900
CorrosionX- 1160

There are several other tests, but the results are similar. Remember,
however, that lab tests do not always predict real world performance. There
are trade offs as well. There are no products that are the best at
everything, so you must decide what is most important on the weapon being
used, as well as the environmental conditions being encountered. Glock's
require only moderate corrosion protection, so Tetra Grease would be good, as would TW25B.
Blued firearms like say a Marlin lever action rifle, or parkerized weapons
like a Mossberg 590 would benifit most by using Corrosion X.
The best protectant available is Corrosion X. The best lubes available are
Tetra Gun Grease, MilComm(Kleenbore) TW25B, and Wilson Combat(Protec) Ultima
lube oil and grease.
I use Wilson's Ultima Lube because it protects well, lubes great, stays
were you put it, doesn't evaporate or wear off, and it remains visible for
easy inspection. Lubes like Tetra and TW25B are all but invisible when
applied, which makes it hard to determine the condition of your weapon. I
like to be able to see the lubricant on the weapon, or my self esteem tends
to suffer .

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Old August 2, 2001, 09:08 PM   #25
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hm...

plenty of variety out there ... plenty of opinions. that's good. that means people are thinking.

Clayton appears to have done plenty of homework.

So I guess my choice of TW-25B is justified as a better lube.

Try it for yourself. Good luck.
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