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Old July 8, 2001, 05:17 PM   #1
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Load data use with AA 1680 in the .44 Mag

Anybody have an Accurate Arms reloading manual that shows Accurate Arms 1680 powder used in the .44 Mag cartridge?
I'm trying to develop some loads for my Ruger Carbine Rifle chambered in .44 Mag. The gun is a bolt so I know there is data out there but I don't have a current manual.
Minimum and Maximum powder charges with a 240 grain bullet if you got it.

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Old July 8, 2001, 05:58 PM   #2
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AA 1680 is real close to the old WW680 ball. But can't say that I have ever seen, or heard of, eather used in the 44Mag. Just a bit too slow IMHO. Mite want to try 296 or 4227 insted.
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Old July 8, 2001, 06:24 PM   #3
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AA manual number 2 lists 1680 in their load list for the .44 magnum. A grand total of one is shown:

Bullet: 355 grain Lead Flat Nose
Minimum load: 18 grains for 911 fps
Maximum load: 20 grains for 1036 fps

Comments field shows that this is a compressed load.

Again, this is the only load listed in the AA manual for the caliber and it is compressed.
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Old July 12, 2001, 09:17 PM   #4
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AA1680

I'm pretty sure AA1680 was designed exclusively for the 7.62x39 Russian cartridge. Non of my books show it being used for the .44. But then again I'm surprised at some loads I hear about.
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Old July 12, 2001, 11:30 PM   #5
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AA 1680 is also for use in the 445 Super Mag which is basically a lengthened 44 mag. This should tell you something. It runs a bit too slow for the 44 Mag and it's case capacity but, is quite suitable in the longer Super case due to it's increased powder capacity being able to take advantage of it's slower burning rate.

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Old July 15, 2001, 10:34 PM   #6
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AA's big book has no recommendation for 1680 for .44Mag rifle, only for very heavy (335gr) handgun.

After experimenting with many rifle loads for .41Mag in my Marlin, I have settled on W296 and H4227 almost exclusively. There are some good loads for lighter bullets using H110, also.

Loadings for .41M and .44M mag are very similar, so it is a good bet that these powders would be the right place to start for a .44 Carbine, as well.
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