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View Poll Results: Which should Daedalus get?
CZ 75b 58 62.37%
Ruger P-95 33 35.48%
Other (please explain) 2 2.15%
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Old July 2, 2001, 03:03 PM   #1
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CZ 75B vs. Ruger P-95

I've narrowed my first handgun purchase to these two semi-autos. I would get either in 9mm. I am wondering your opinion on which I should get. I have held the CZ and it felt great, but I haven't had the chance to handle a P-95. But I think I shot a P series pistol (forgot which one). Both are similarly priced, and from what I understand are both great shooters. I am stuck. Thanks for the help.
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Old July 2, 2001, 03:41 PM   #2
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As one who has had both, and neither one is a bad gun, I find the CZ a far better gun for me and my hands. Its just a natural pointer.

The down side is that it has a long trigger pull, and people with small hands and short fingers find it hard to shoot well. That may be a problem with the Ruger, too, but I've not heard anyone complaining about that aspect of the Ruger.

Given an average size hand, I'd go CZ-75B, or maybe their new PCR (which a slightly smaller version of the same gun.)

Buy you need to shoot both before you decide. (I bought traded a P-95 in on a SIG P-239 once only to find, over a period of weeks, that the P-239 really didn't fit my hand, but the P-95 did.)

Opinion polls don't matter when its YOUR hand that has to hold the gun.
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Old July 2, 2001, 04:59 PM   #3
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I'm so value conscious it's the P-95 hands down. A blued P-95 goes for under $300. No CZ can approach that except the CZ-83. My shootin' buddy bought a P-95 five years ago and it's still going strong, looks good, stone cold reliable, lightweight, reasonably concealable, and exceptional value. The CZ may be prettier but it's not a better pistol. Best Regards, J. Parker
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Old July 2, 2001, 05:12 PM   #4
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I've had my Ruger P95 for a little over a year now and have yet to experience any sort of problem with it. Reliable, accurate, and extremely rugged.

I have had the opportunity to shoo the CZ-75 as well and can say that the Czechs make a very good pistol. I just prefer the Ruger.

In all reality, you can;t go wrong with either one. It really is more an issue of personal preference/subjective opinion.
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Old July 2, 2001, 05:15 PM   #5
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I have both.I am more accurate with the CZ for some reason.
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Old July 2, 2001, 06:07 PM   #6
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The CZ fits my hand better than any other pistol I've tried. Only other pistol that feels right at home in my hand is the 1911 design..

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Old July 2, 2001, 07:49 PM   #7
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nevermind
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Old July 2, 2001, 08:03 PM   #8
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I've put a whole lot of ammo through my P95, at least a couple of thousand. Never have had a jam, FTE or FTF, no malfunctions of any kind. Have shot S&B, Federal American Eagle, Winchester USA, Fiochi(?), UMC, American and Wolf. Eats anything. Hicap mags are readily available for it and at reasonable prices. Feels good in my hand and points well.

I have only recently held a CZ. Feels good and points well. Have not had the opportunity to fire one. Owners reports speak as highly of it as do owners reports for the P95.

Price advantage goes to the Ruger.

I won't vote. Buy what feels and points best for you. They are both, reportedly, excellent weapons.
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Old July 3, 2001, 02:31 PM   #9
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Last year I rented both at our range. The CZ75 has a much smother trigger. The 95 had a crunchy DA and the SA had a good deal of creep. I'm sure that the 95 is durable but the CZ75 is easier to shoot and is more accurate because of the Browning style barell lockup. Besides you get a 15 rounder with the new CZs. I only paid $325 for mine with the polymer finish.
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Old July 3, 2001, 03:43 PM   #10
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CZ 75 hands down.
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Old July 3, 2001, 04:25 PM   #11
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The Ruger is a nice gun for the cash but I went CZ-75 myself just because the grip fit me better and the Ruger felt too big to me. Personally, I would give the CZ an edge...a big edge! But just do whatever floats your boat because they're both good firearms.
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Old July 3, 2001, 05:28 PM   #12
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CZ-75

You can still get a CZ-75B Mil for around $319 with a Hi-cap mag. The quality, accuracy and feel of this pistol far outshines the Ruger P-95. The Ruger is a very good pistol, but not in the same class as the CZ.
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Old July 4, 2001, 01:43 AM   #13
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CZ !!!
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Old July 4, 2001, 04:37 AM   #14
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CZ-no question about it. It's far and away a better value than the Ruger. The Ruger is a $300.00 gun that's sold for $300.00. The CZ is a $500.00 plus gun being sold for $350.00 -about the going average price.
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Old July 4, 2001, 06:48 AM   #15
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I found that the CZ-75 grips were just a tad too fat. The Ruger fit better. I have the KP95D.
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Old July 4, 2001, 07:29 AM   #16
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CZ Grips

Denfoote,

You can get aftermarket grips from Hougue, CZ and some others that are VERY thin and make the CZ grip even nicer. I've ordered a pair of replacement Hogue Cocobolo wood panels for my CZ-75. Can't wait!
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Old July 4, 2001, 08:05 AM   #17
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It took me a lot of thought to advise CZ75B over the P95. Why? I own a P85 MKII which has never given me any concern. It shoots everytime and like all Rugers I have owned it is accurate. I own and really enjoy the CZ75 and Kadet 22 LR kit for it. I would rent and shoot both weapons choosing the one that felt and performed best. For me it is the CZ75B. I am sure the Kadet kit is a weighing factor for me. I have never seen a conversion unit that rivals it. Regards, Richard
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Old July 4, 2001, 12:03 PM   #18
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When the P-95 came out in the mid-nineties it was proclaimed THE value of the twentieth century. CZ's have never received the fanfare that the P-95 did when it came out. In '96 my buddy got his STAINLESS P-95 for $259. Absolutely amazing for a "made in the USA" handgun. CZ's are inexpensive because it's cheap to build 'em. If CZ's were made in the USA they'd be $600 pistols. Once again, the ALL-TIME value champ.....I give you...the Ruger P-95. Best, J. Parker
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Old July 4, 2001, 12:22 PM   #19
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P95DC

I have a P95 decocker which has become my favorite gun in the safe. I use it for home defense and sometimes for CCW. I've never had a failure to feed, extract or go bang. It's a great piece and the price is very reasonable. I recommend it highly.

Don't know anything about the CZ 75.
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Old July 4, 2001, 03:31 PM   #20
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I had to make the same decision recently and I opted for the Baby Eagle 9mm. I have a Ruger P97 that fits and feels very good, and seems to have the same basic 'feel' as the P95 does, so the P95 was definitely in the running. I also tried out the CZ75 and LOVED the way it felt in my hand, except for one little detail: as has been mentioned, the trigger reach is a tad long. The CZ pointed better than a P95 [compared both in local shop] and the stock felt better in my hand-except for the DA trigger reach.

I was told not to worry, as the CZ75 can be carried 'cocked and locked' like a 1911, so I can just leave it in the SA mode safely. However, I am not used to cocked and locked, so the DA mode 'feels' better to me for first shots. As a result I bought the Magnum Research Baby Eagle 9mm. This pistol is an Israeli copy of the CZ [but about $100 more in California] with two exceptions: the trigger is not quite as sweet as the CZ out of the box [but, after a lot of polishing mine is VERY sweet now] and the frame is full-length under the slide-more like the CZ75 ISPC version. As a result of this it is a very stable shooter and very accurate. Oh, the Baby Eagle also has a Polygonal barrel instead of the land-and-groove barrel of the CZ.

The Baby Eagle is not as cheap, but I really am happy. This pistol is also sold under the names Uzi Eagle and Jericho 941. They are all the same: an Israeli Military Industries 9mm CZ clone. Actually, cdnninvestments has the Jericho 9mm Compact for sale in their current catalog for $279.99, or the 40cal version w/polymer frame for $329.99. I like mine so much I would order the Jericho Compact except I live in California. The Magnum Research brand version is legal here in that size, but the Jericho isn't: even though the only difference is a name stamped on the side of the slide and frame.


As everyone says, try them out in your hand and choose the one that fits your hand the best. Keep one other thing in mind. The P95 is a VERY reliable duty/self defense handgun. It is not as inherently accurate as the CZ design [whether it be a CZ, a Witness, or a Baby Eagle]. If you are thinking of future competition, the CZ-type is probably a better choice. If you are thinking recreational/self-defense firearm, the Ruger is a GREAT choice. Unless you live in a restricted state, the CZ and Ruger both have 15 round magazines and the Baby Eagle [full-sized] comes with either a 15 or 16 round magazine. If you are like me, in California, then it is 10 rounds for any of these.

Good luck and Good Shooting!

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Old July 5, 2001, 01:20 AM   #21
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I think the Ruger is a good gun but too bulky and too many weard angles and switches. If you could put a winch on it you could use it for a fishing trawler or a minesweeper. they are not a trim sleek gun like the CZ. That slide is like 4 lanes wide, just hold a CZ in one hand and a Ruger in the other and which would you want to have sticking off your hip.
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Old July 5, 2001, 02:10 AM   #22
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Ruger's sights seem sharp edged to me and the slide chunky. The more narrow muzzle of the CZ 75B holsters more easily for me than the blunt snout of the Ruger. The CZ-75B, too, has always had the better trigger in my experience.

While I've never heard a complaint about the newer Rugers' durability and reliability, I find the CZ product equal in these areas and superior in all others.
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Old July 5, 2001, 03:24 PM   #23
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Denfoote,

You can get aftermarket grips from Hougue, CZ and some others that are VERY thin and make the CZ grip even nicer. I've ordered a pair of replacement Hogue Cocobolo wood panels for my CZ-75. Can't wait!


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This was years ago. Gads, how long have I had that P95??? (thinks hard ) I think I went through this in about 97, or 98. I have extra small hands, at least according to my glove size. I have discovered that aftermarket grips generally do not help. That is what happened with my P-89. I could not make it fit. I sold it.
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Old July 5, 2001, 04:03 PM   #24
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I would get the CZ. I like my PCR model, but the best deal is probably the 75B. I'm sure the Rugers are also good guns, and I think the pros and cons have already been well covered, so I'll just second the opinion that the CZ is a $500-600 gun that you can get for $350. Full-capacity magazines are still available for a relatively reasonable price, which is another big plus to me. Good luck.

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Old July 5, 2001, 05:14 PM   #25
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cz-75b

ruger is a good gun but will never be able to do what a cz can do. cz has made a reliable and very nearly match grade gun. Sold my ruger p-89 for a cz-75b and I get a chuckle from just thinking that anyone would even ask ruger vs cz.

ruger = chunky peanut butter and bacos on celery.
cz = creamy in Jeniffer Love Hewitt's cleavage.

guess it just depends on what sort of dinner you're after. -ddt
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