Lara Croft: Tomb Raider-Guns used?!?

Blinkme7182 · June 16, 2001, 10:47 PM

Just got back from seeing the new Lara Croft Tomb Raider movie. My question to whoever has seen it---What type of semi-auto handguns does she use in the movie? Are they real or fake?And what type of rifles to powell and his crew use? Thanks....

ArmySon · June 16, 2001, 10:51 PM

Heckler & Koch HK USP Match .45 ACP

Yes they are real guns. Uhh, the H&K's are

http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/Pages...nchor-HK-47857

Apeach · June 16, 2001, 10:51 PM

She uses a HK USP match. For some more info, go to www.hkpro.com they have a good bit on the USP guns. I think I heard that those guys use HK G36 rifles, and you can look that up on HKPRO too.

Archer1440 · June 17, 2001, 12:54 AM

The guns are Heckler & Koch USP Match pistols in .45ACP. Several modifications were made for the guns in the film, including an ambi slide release, a jetfunnel from the USP Tactical, and some cosmetic adjustments. Obviously the reloading mag carrier system was also specially made.

Now, of course, it will become impossible to find these hard-to-find guns at a reasonable price.

bad_dad_brad · June 17, 2001, 03:44 AM

I thought she used a Desert Eagle. Regardless Angelie Jolie has a pair of .38 specials that are without compare. Boom Boom.

fed168 · June 17, 2001, 04:14 AM

In one of the posters hanging up at our local theater, they show a close up of the USP. Sorry guys, it is a 9mm, says so on the slide, looks like the compensator attached. I thought it was a match also.

denfoote · June 17, 2001, 04:44 AM

I saw the movie. They were HK Socom M23's IMHO!!!!!!!

HKmarc · June 17, 2001, 05:52 AM

Right on target, Archer1440 except it's a USP Match in 9mmx19 with those mods. BTW the USP Match 9mm is something HK dosn't feel Americans need...but I have heard that people have managed to get them here....so maybe HK Sterling imported some over...but I don't think they did...so the ones in the states are probably not HK imports.

hksigwalther · June 17, 2001, 09:28 AM

IIRC, the extension at the end of the slide is a barrel/frame (not directly attatched to the barrel) weight and not a compensator. It is just made to match the slide profile. The sides are like protective dog-ears around the extended barrel.

Blinkme7182 · June 17, 2001, 11:58 AM

thanks for the info!----btw, did it seem to anyone else that those handguns had unusually large magazines? As in, she shot many, many shots and still had more ammo left...

.357SIG · June 17, 2001, 01:49 PM

HK USP Match 9mm hybrids, according to this thread: http://ubb.hkpro.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002104.html

Blinkme7182 · June 17, 2001, 04:34 PM

they definitely are HK USP match in 9mm---
http://www.hkpro.com/uspmatch.htm
Apparently the ones in Europe are available with 15 round magazines, so that would explain why it seems like she had an unlimited supply of ammo.
Marc

CharlieTuna · June 17, 2001, 04:59 PM

If you check the link that .357SIG posted you will also find that the pistols used had a jet funnel attachment. Currently the only mags that work with this attachment are (at least that I am aware of) either the translucent polymer 18 rd. 9mm or I have heard that some owners are making STI?(I believe) mags work which also carries a large number of rounds.

CharlieTuna · June 17, 2001, 05:02 PM

denfoote-they were absolutely NOT mark23s I believe that another character (Lara's former lover) had a mark23. But the pistols everyone is referrring to here are modified USP Matches used by Angelina Jolie(Lara Croft).

Micro · June 17, 2001, 05:07 PM

I know several of them had Walther P99's, assault rifle wise those were G3's were they not?

CharlieTuna · June 17, 2001, 08:11 PM

The vast majority that I recall seeing were g36.

LiquidTension · June 18, 2001, 01:06 AM

Yes, they were USP Match pistols - I looked in the "Tomb Raider Technical Manual" or some such book at the store the other day. Naturally the book doesn't give any real information, just has pictures of all the gear and some quotes from the movie...btw, was the movie any good???

HKmarc · June 18, 2001, 01:20 AM

The movie in my opinion wasn't my cup of tea but had enough eye candy to keep me happy

Of course I think that was the whole purpose of the movie...so why am I complaining. Oh, my little cousin, 14 year old, I took to that movie for my aunt...free movie for me...seemed to really like it...so I guess it reached it's target audience.

landshark · June 18, 2001, 02:59 AM

A lot of the others including the bad guy had P99s.

CastleBravo · June 18, 2001, 11:21 AM

If you look closely at the pictures in the "Technical Manual" you see the USP Matches are clearly makrked "9mm x 19."

fed168 · June 18, 2001, 12:21 PM

Not to get too far off topic, but a certain periodical has a picture of Pam Anderson with a pink Desert Eagle.

CaesarI · June 18, 2001, 01:07 PM

Saw the movie, and I'd bet the farm the badguys were using G36's. They looked like the G36K actually. But as was mentioned, definitely USP Match's in 9X19. And as was also mentioned, there was a jet funnel attachment. I think the main reason for using the 9mm is that they are more reliable with blanks, which allows for fewer re-shoots (pun intended). Hollywood tends to us 9mm when they can for this reason. The reason for using Match's as far as I can tell, is that they look badass. Who honestly uses a target pistol as a combat gun? But anyway. The primary reason for seeing the movie is Angelina Jolie, not the guns. Too bad it's PG-13.

-Morgan

Archer1440 · June 18, 2001, 06:14 PM

Whups, sorry for the error, 9 x 19, NOT .45 ACP. Sorry !

Gremlin · June 18, 2001, 09:52 PM

Guns? She was carrying guns? Now you tell me, I never got that far...

Aside from her obvious physical attributes, that woman has got a grin that would shame a mink out of it's pelt.

Bompa · June 18, 2001, 10:31 PM

In the paper back book that was supposedly written from the
screenplay she mentions her Colts..Nothing else..

June 16, 2001, 10:47 PM	#1
Blinkme7182 Member Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: CT Posts: 60	Lara Croft: Tomb Raider-Guns used?!? Just got back from seeing the new Lara Croft Tomb Raider movie. My question to whoever has seen it---What type of semi-auto handguns does she use in the movie? Are they real or fake?And what type of rifles to powell and his crew use? Thanks.... __________________ Marc

June 16, 2001, 10:51 PM	#2
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	Heckler & Koch HK USP Match .45 ACP Yes they are real guns. Uhh, the H&K's are http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/Pages...nchor-HK-47857 __________________ Your friends will forgive your mistakes. Your enemies will kill you for it.

June 17, 2001, 12:54 AM	#4
Archer1440 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 508	The guns are Heckler & Koch USP Match pistols in .45ACP. Several modifications were made for the guns in the film, including an ambi slide release, a jetfunnel from the USP Tactical, and some cosmetic adjustments. Obviously the reloading mag carrier system was also specially made. Now, of course, it will become impossible to find these hard-to-find guns at a reasonable price. __________________ "Well, we know what motivates the hoplophobe. He simply envies the man who can cope where he, the hoplophobe, cannot. A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. This is not egalitarian! The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears, and sometimes hates the man who can." – Jeff Cooper

June 17, 2001, 04:44 AM	#7
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	I saw the movie. They were HK Socom M23's IMHO!!!!!!! __________________ Ich bin kein Nationalsozialist!!!!!! Ich bin Republikaner!!!!!!!! Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset. Arizona: Flush the Johns!!!

June 17, 2001, 05:52 AM	#8
HKmarc Junior Member Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: San Diego & SF Bay Area Posts: 12	Right on target, Archer1440 except it's a USP Match in 9mmx19 with those mods. BTW the USP Match 9mm is something HK dosn't feel Americans need...but I have heard that people have managed to get them here....so maybe HK Sterling imported some over...but I don't think they did...so the ones in the states are probably not HK imports. Last edited by HKmarc; June 17, 2001 at 06:13 AM.

June 16, 2001, 10:51 PM	#3
Apeach Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: The 'burbs of chicago Posts: 167	She uses a HK USP match. For some more info, go to www.hkpro.com they have a good bit on the USP guns. I think I heard that those guys use HK G36 rifles, and you can look that up on HKPRO too.

June 17, 2001, 03:44 AM	#5
bad_dad_brad Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Posts: 866	I thought she used a Desert Eagle. Regardless Angelie Jolie has a pair of .38 specials that are without compare. Boom Boom.

June 17, 2001, 04:14 AM	#6
fed168 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2000 Posts: 1,041	In one of the posters hanging up at our local theater, they show a close up of the USP. Sorry guys, it is a 9mm, says so on the slide, looks like the compensator attached. I thought it was a match also.

June 17, 2001, 09:28 AM	#9
hksigwalther Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1998 Location: NE OH, USA Posts: 3,199	IIRC, the extension at the end of the slide is a barrel/frame (not directly attatched to the barrel) weight and not a compensator. It is just made to match the slide profile. The sides are like protective dog-ears around the extended barrel. __________________ - Ron V.

June 17, 2001, 11:58 AM	#10
Blinkme7182 Member Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: CT Posts: 60	thanks thanks for the info!----btw, did it seem to anyone else that those handguns had unusually large magazines? As in, she shot many, many shots and still had more ammo left... __________________ Marc

June 17, 2001, 01:49 PM	#11
.357SIG Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 1999 Posts: 1,016	HK USP Match 9mm hybrids, according to this thread: http://ubb.hkpro.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/002104.html

June 17, 2001, 04:34 PM	#12
Blinkme7182 Member Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: CT Posts: 60	yup they definitely are HK USP match in 9mm--- http://www.hkpro.com/uspmatch.htm Apparently the ones in Europe are available with 15 round magazines, so that would explain why it seems like she had an unlimited supply of ammo. Marc __________________ Marc

June 17, 2001, 04:59 PM	#13
CharlieTuna Member Join Date: June 6, 2001 Posts: 27	If you check the link that .357SIG posted you will also find that the pistols used had a jet funnel attachment. Currently the only mags that work with this attachment are (at least that I am aware of) either the translucent polymer 18 rd. 9mm or I have heard that some owners are making STI?(I believe) mags work which also carries a large number of rounds.

June 17, 2001, 05:02 PM	#14
CharlieTuna Member Join Date: June 6, 2001 Posts: 27	denfoote-they were absolutely NOT mark23s I believe that another character (Lara's former lover) had a mark23. But the pistols everyone is referrring to here are modified USP Matches used by Angelina Jolie(Lara Croft).

June 17, 2001, 05:07 PM	#15
Micro Member Join Date: February 5, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 38	What about the bad guys... I know several of them had Walther P99's, assault rifle wise those were G3's were they not?

June 17, 2001, 08:11 PM	#16
CharlieTuna Member Join Date: June 6, 2001 Posts: 27	The vast majority that I recall seeing were g36.

June 18, 2001, 01:06 AM	#17
LiquidTension Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2000 Location: SC Posts: 105	Yes, they were USP Match pistols - I looked in the "Tomb Raider Technical Manual" or some such book at the store the other day. Naturally the book doesn't give any real information, just has pictures of all the gear and some quotes from the movie...btw, was the movie any good???

June 18, 2001, 01:20 AM	#18
HKmarc Junior Member Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: San Diego & SF Bay Area Posts: 12	The movie in my opinion wasn't my cup of tea but had enough eye candy to keep me happy Of course I think that was the whole purpose of the movie...so why am I complaining. Oh, my little cousin, 14 year old, I took to that movie for my aunt...free movie for me...seemed to really like it...so I guess it reached it's target audience.

June 18, 2001, 02:59 AM	#19
landshark Member Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Ca Posts: 92	A lot of the others including the bad guy had P99s.

June 18, 2001, 11:21 AM	#20
CastleBravo Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 1999 Posts: 2,137	If you look closely at the pictures in the "Technical Manual" you see the USP Matches are clearly makrked "9mm x 19."

June 18, 2001, 12:21 PM	#21
fed168 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2000 Posts: 1,041	Not to get too far off topic, but a certain periodical has a picture of Pam Anderson with a pink Desert Eagle.

June 18, 2001, 01:07 PM	#22
CaesarI Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Posts: 269	Saw the movie, and I'd bet the farm the badguys were using G36's. They looked like the G36K actually. But as was mentioned, definitely USP Match's in 9X19. And as was also mentioned, there was a jet funnel attachment. I think the main reason for using the 9mm is that they are more reliable with blanks, which allows for fewer re-shoots (pun intended). Hollywood tends to us 9mm when they can for this reason. The reason for using Match's as far as I can tell, is that they look badass. Who honestly uses a target pistol as a combat gun? But anyway. The primary reason for seeing the movie is Angelina Jolie, not the guns. Too bad it's PG-13. -Morgan

June 18, 2001, 06:14 PM	#23
Archer1440 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 508	Whups, sorry for the error, 9 x 19, NOT .45 ACP. Sorry ! __________________ "Well, we know what motivates the hoplophobe. He simply envies the man who can cope where he, the hoplophobe, cannot. A skilled, armed man lives on a plane of security and contentment different from that of others. This is not egalitarian! The man who cannot cut it, envies, fears, and sometimes hates the man who can." – Jeff Cooper

June 18, 2001, 09:52 PM	#24
Gremlin Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 1999 Location: Just left of center Posts: 544	Guns? She was carrying guns? Now you tell me, I never got that far... Aside from her obvious physical attributes, that woman has got a grin that would shame a mink out of it's pelt. __________________ Take the long way home...

June 18, 2001, 10:31 PM	#25
Bompa Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: western Mass. Posts: 135	In the paper back book that was supposedly written from the screenplay she mentions her Colts..Nothing else..