primer seal question

handgunhunting · May 1, 2001, 05:26 PM

Anyone ever use nail polish to seal the primers to the reloads?

Hal · May 1, 2001, 05:31 PM

Yes.

handgunhunting · May 1, 2001, 06:43 PM

how does it work?

WESHOOT2 · May 1, 2001, 11:03 PM

Go wild and splurge on a bottle of George & Roy's Primer Sealant.

handgunhunting · May 2, 2001, 03:32 PM

My wife has lots of 1/2 full nail polish bottles laying around, If this would work for a primer seal then why spend money on George and Roy primer sealer?

Hal · May 2, 2001, 05:23 PM

Worked fine.

Patrick Graham · May 2, 2001, 10:08 PM

Nail polish will come off sometimes in the chamber. George & Roy's won't, at least it hasn't yet.

I've used nail polish in the past and it comes off, especially with hot loads that will cause any movement in the primer, like starting to flow. George & Roy's seems to stick to metal better.

You don't want an AR15 Bolt, magazine and chamber area full of little red rings that came off when the rounds were fired.

user110011 · May 3, 2001, 12:10 PM

Who sells George & Roy's? I'm almost out and haven't seen it anywhere lately.

Southla1 · May 3, 2001, 12:30 PM

Midway.

user110011 · May 9, 2001, 08:17 AM

Do you have the Midway part number? It isn't listed on the web site, and the search function doesn't find it.

Pampers · May 9, 2001, 08:26 AM

Officially "Wick & Seal" works fine. I'd check prices against the reloading specialty items. Experience has shown me that reloading specialty items are usually relabled products that can be obtained cheaper at the local auto supply house.

One question: Why are you being so anal about primer sealing? Are you planning on some UDT work? I used to be, but, one day, I asked myself "Why are you doing this?"

Yr. Obt. Svnt.

Wild Romanian · May 9, 2001, 03:37 PM

If you are looking for a way to seal up ammo against moisture and oil contamination use plain old polyurethane varnish. I have not had a missfire since using the stuff on my primers and around the junction of the case mouth and bullet. Guns that are oiled and then stored or carried loaded will often become contaminated with gun oil causing a miss fire or squib load. W.D. 40 is notorius for killing primers. Polyurethane seems to work well for me because I do not shoot much of this ammo. If you plan on shooting a lot of the ammo that you are going to treat then you will have to experiment to find a substance that will not peel off and contaminate the chamber. So far I have experienced no flaking off of ployurethane but I have not fired a lot of this treated ammo, only a small ammount that was deliberatly soaked in gun oil to see if it would prevent the ammo from becomming contaminated. The rounds I tested all fired normally with no flaking of the polyurethane. W.R.

Big Bunny · May 9, 2001, 10:57 PM

I seal my duck shotshells primers with titanium based wife's old polish. Put it in the case pocket with the brush first and press the primer in on top.

You can reuse old cases until they split too -as it tightens up the fit/clearance with the new Winchesters especially, with their small ridged bearing surface. The W magnums [now discontinued] were better, hotter and larger diam too.

TVDean · May 10, 2001, 10:49 AM

I suppose I don't have a need for primer sealant.
The only ammo that "stays" in my guns is factory ammo.
My reloads are usually fired within a week or two, and aren't subjected to oils.

Living up here in the rainy NorthWest you'd think we would all seal our primers, nope.

I've come back from rainy matches where my shooting bag get soaked and I forget to wipe my guns & magazines down. The next day, gasping, I discover my blued 1911 and it mags are being raped by crimson colored corrosion creaturers!

That unsealed ammo worked well the following week.

...come to think of it, living up here, maybe I should start sealing all my ammo.

user110011 · May 10, 2001, 02:02 PM

So does anyone know (for a fact) who sells George & Roy's Primer Sealer?

maxwayne · May 10, 2001, 06:10 PM

Try Lock, Stock & Barrel or Wideners.

handgunhunting · May 12, 2001, 10:19 AM

anyone seal the bullets and the primers?

Patrick Graham · May 13, 2001, 09:32 AM

Pampers wrote: "One question: Why are you being so anal about primer sealing?"

Why not?
It's part of the fun of reloading.

Calling people anal is rude.

Sometimes I'll seal both prime and bullet just to see if I can do it. Doing things out of the ordinary is part of learning new things in life.

May 1, 2001, 11:03 PM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 12,923	Go wild and splurge on a bottle of George & Roy's Primer Sealant. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

May 9, 2001, 08:26 AM	#11
Pampers Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2000 Location: In the Lost State of Franklin Posts: 482	Loctite Green Officially "Wick & Seal" works fine. I'd check prices against the reloading specialty items. Experience has shown me that reloading specialty items are usually relabled products that can be obtained cheaper at the local auto supply house. One question: Why are you being so anal about primer sealing? Are you planning on some UDT work? I used to be, but, one day, I asked myself "Why are you doing this?" Yr. Obt. Svnt. __________________ Your Most Humble & Obedient Servant Fred J. Drumheller NRA Life NRA Golden Eagle

May 9, 2001, 03:37 PM	#12
Wild Romanian Junior member Join Date: April 10, 2001 Posts: 448	primer seal question If you are looking for a way to seal up ammo against moisture and oil contamination use plain old polyurethane varnish. I have not had a missfire since using the stuff on my primers and around the junction of the case mouth and bullet. Guns that are oiled and then stored or carried loaded will often become contaminated with gun oil causing a miss fire or squib load. W.D. 40 is notorius for killing primers. Polyurethane seems to work well for me because I do not shoot much of this ammo. If you plan on shooting a lot of the ammo that you are going to treat then you will have to experiment to find a substance that will not peel off and contaminate the chamber. So far I have experienced no flaking off of ployurethane but I have not fired a lot of this treated ammo, only a small ammount that was deliberatly soaked in gun oil to see if it would prevent the ammo from becomming contaminated. The rounds I tested all fired normally with no flaking of the polyurethane. W.R.

May 9, 2001, 10:57 PM	#13
Big Bunny Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 1999 Location: New South Wales - Australia Posts: 606	I seal my duck shotshells primers with titanium based wife's old polish. Put it in the case pocket with the brush first and press the primer in on top. You can reuse old cases until they split too -as it tightens up the fit/clearance with the new Winchesters especially, with their small ridged bearing surface. The W magnums [now discontinued] were better, hotter and larger diam too. __________________ Bad boys, bad boys...watcha goin' to do - watcha goin' to do when they come for YOU ?!

May 10, 2001, 10:49 AM	#14
TVDean Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 1999 Posts: 173	.never thunk'bout it... I suppose I don't have a need for primer sealant. The only ammo that "stays" in my guns is factory ammo. My reloads are usually fired within a week or two, and aren't subjected to oils. Living up here in the rainy NorthWest you'd think we would all seal our primers, nope. I've come back from rainy matches where my shooting bag get soaked and I forget to wipe my guns & magazines down. The next day, gasping, I discover my blued 1911 and it mags are being raped by crimson colored corrosion creaturers! That unsealed ammo worked well the following week. ...come to think of it, living up here, maybe I should start sealing all my ammo.

May 1, 2001, 05:26 PM	#1
handgunhunting Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 267	Anyone ever use nail polish to seal the primers to the reloads?

May 1, 2001, 05:31 PM	#2
Hal Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 1998 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 6,974	Yes.

May 1, 2001, 06:43 PM	#3
handgunhunting Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 267	how does it work?

May 2, 2001, 03:32 PM	#5
handgunhunting Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 267	My wife has lots of 1/2 full nail polish bottles laying around, If this would work for a primer seal then why spend money on George and Roy primer sealer?

May 2, 2001, 05:23 PM	#6
Hal Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 1998 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 6,974	Worked fine.

May 2, 2001, 10:08 PM	#7
Patrick Graham Junior member Join Date: January 18, 1999 Location: Kokomo, Indiana USA Posts: 676	Nail polish will come off sometimes in the chamber. George & Roy's won't, at least it hasn't yet. I've used nail polish in the past and it comes off, especially with hot loads that will cause any movement in the primer, like starting to flow. George & Roy's seems to stick to metal better. You don't want an AR15 Bolt, magazine and chamber area full of little red rings that came off when the rounds were fired.

May 3, 2001, 12:10 PM	#8
user110011 Member Join Date: April 20, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 73	Who sells George & Roy's? I'm almost out and haven't seen it anywhere lately.

May 3, 2001, 12:30 PM	#9
Southla1 Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 19, 2000 Location: Jeanerette, La. Near the Posts: 1,999	Midway.

May 9, 2001, 08:17 AM	#10
user110011 Member Join Date: April 20, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 73	Do you have the Midway part number? It isn't listed on the web site, and the search function doesn't find it.

May 10, 2001, 02:02 PM	#15
user110011 Member Join Date: April 20, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 73	So does anyone know (for a fact) who sells George & Roy's Primer Sealer?

May 10, 2001, 06:10 PM	#16
maxwayne Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2001 Posts: 401	Try Lock, Stock & Barrel or Wideners.

May 12, 2001, 10:19 AM	#17
handgunhunting Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 267	anyone seal the bullets and the primers?

May 13, 2001, 09:32 AM	#18
Patrick Graham Junior member Join Date: January 18, 1999 Location: Kokomo, Indiana USA Posts: 676	Pampers wrote: "One question: Why are you being so anal about primer sealing?" Why not? It's part of the fun of reloading. Calling people anal is rude. Sometimes I'll seal both prime and bullet just to see if I can do it. Doing things out of the ordinary is part of learning new things in life.