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Old March 6, 2001, 07:01 PM   #1
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Don't these guys ever think about the consequences of their proposed legislation? During his campaign McCain would get red-faced and start denying everytime someone would ask him about this.

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McCain Incumbent Protection Bill Threatens Gun Owners
-- Bill to keep gun owners in the dark, endanger existence of GOA

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org


(Tuesday, March 6, 2001) -- Irked by nettlesome groups such as GOA
which threaten to expose their anti-gun activities, Arizona Senator
John McCain (R) and Wisconsin Democrat Senator Russ Feingold (D) are
pushing legislation which would eliminate the ability of groups like
GOA to keep gun owners informed on how their legislators are voting.

In the name of reforming campaign finance laws, this Incumbent
Protection legislation would allow the government to seize the
membership lists of groups such as ours -- and potentially outlaw
our organization. The issue is scheduled to come before the Senate
between March 19th and 26th.

The Incumbent Protection bill, S. 27, would require legislative
advocacy groups -- including Second Amendment organizations such as
GOA -- to report to the government if they spend more than $10,000
preparing for and participating in TV and radio broadcasts which
mention officeholder-candidates within two months of an election.
If they wished, government bureaucrats could define virtually all of
an organization's activities as "preparation" for TV and radio
interviews.

With GOA employees regularly appearing on TV shows such as Fox News,
Crossfire, and other programs to discuss gun-related legislation,
there can be little doubt that S. 27 would apply to this
organization. If it did, GOA would be required to provide the
government with its donor list. For the time being, this disclosure
would be limited to contributors of $1,000 or more, but no one
should assume this threshold would not be reduced or eliminated once
the government's foot was in our membership door.

It goes without saying that an activist who sends a check to GOA to
help protect his Second Amendment rights doesn't want his name being
registered with the government as a gun owner. And for that reason,
GOA will fight this bill "tooth and nail." And if this bill were to
become law, GOA would not comply. We would fight it in court, and
exhaust every possible resource, because we are not going to turn
over our members' names to the government.

This underscores why it is SO VERY IMPORTANT that we defeat this
bill in the Congress! GOA would rather spend its members' dollars
defending 2nd Amendment freedoms, as opposed to spending hundreds of
thousands of dollars fighting 1st Amendment battles in court.

Finally, because the Incumbent Protection bill would define
GOA's battles against anti-gun legislation as "electioneering" if
they occurred during election season, these legislative activities
could affect our tax-exempt status -- and ultimately, our existence.
Urge your Senators to keep their distance from John McCain and Russ
Feingold, and to respect the free speech rights of all Americans.
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Old March 6, 2001, 07:14 PM   #2
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I can only hope this dies a horrible death.

I keep getting things from McCain (how stupid could I have been); however, I keep replying by writing on the request from money "Not till my taxes are cut and people leave my 2nd Amendment alone". I then use the postage paid envelope and send it back to him/them. You'd think they'd get the hint by now...

Anyway, I wouldn't contribute to him now or to his cause.

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Old March 6, 2001, 11:32 PM   #3
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The way McCain has apparently morphed lately, I'm beginning to think that 'skin' cancer he had might have gone a little deeper.

He should be referred to as Arizona Senator John McCain (D).
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Old March 6, 2001, 11:54 PM   #4
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At a recent gun show I attended in Phoenix they were making announcements to the crowd at large that McCain was sponsoring legislation which as I recall they thought would outlaw the private sales of firearms at gun shows. GOA was providing post cards to send to his office. I may have the specifics wrong, but there's no doubt that he has made some questionable choices lately.

Glad I'm only in AZ for a few more months until Uncle Sam stations me elsewhere... although I shouldn't complain, coming from Massachusetts!


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Old March 7, 2001, 01:18 PM   #5
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People are often best defined by their friends and/or enemies.

McCain is loved by Democrats and the media elite.
McCain was thumped in the primaries, by conservative Republicans.

'nuff said.

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Old March 7, 2001, 10:00 PM   #6
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GI John is utterly worthless and should be treated with contempt by all freedom loving Americans.-------Chainsaw
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Old March 7, 2001, 10:32 PM   #7
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Back Up

Solution:
Call in the ACLU for backup. Exhaust their financial resources fighting it. The ACLU loves to tackle laws like this and they've got a lot more money and a lot more Lawyers.

-Morgan
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Old March 8, 2001, 09:18 AM   #8
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You folks in AZ who keep on voting for this jackass out of some irrational fear of Democrats are pathetic. NO Democrat could do as much damage as John McCain. They would be the second on delegation to the other Republican who looks like Hoss Cartwright. If you folks in AZ don't vote in the Republican Primaries, shame on you. If McCain wins and you don't vote Libertarian, double shame on you. McCain is a communist. He's a sorry SOB and I don't give two hoots in hell what happened to him in Hanoi. A lot of folks went over there and were POW's and didn't come back to become traitors which is exactly what John McCain is; he's also a genuine government dung-heap scum-bag.
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Old March 8, 2001, 09:34 AM   #9
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This is all sour grapes on his part since he got beat by Bush. Now he wants to saddle up to the democrats. Just shows a lack of character.
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Old March 8, 2001, 11:03 AM   #10
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Tom,
You may be right. McCain may be showing a lack of character.

However, I believe he is now showing his TRUE character. I believe his posturing as a 'moderate' was a carefully orchestrated lie.

Remember, McCain (a Republican) and Bradley (a Democrat) were exchanging campaign funds during the primary. What on earth it will take before Americans realize the the Democrats and Republicans are joined at the hip? They have the same agenda, merely different time lines for achieving our subjugation.
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Old March 8, 2001, 11:06 AM   #11
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I totally agree kjm. Mc Cain is willing to sell us out to satisfy his own personal ambition. He should be dumped by the voters of Arizona like yesterday's garbage.
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Old March 8, 2001, 05:57 PM   #12
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It's time for us to realize that voting Republican just because it is "The lesser of two evils" is not going to get us anywhere. We need to let the Republican party understand that their vote for gun control is forgetting about the very people who got them to their position in the first place.

We need to do to the Repubs what dissatisfied voters did to the Democratic party when they switched to the Green party. Our talking, whining and complaining is doing absolutely nothing. Its time to speak very loud and clear with OUR votes. Starting TODAY I now belong to the Libertarian party! I've been b/s'ing myself long enough.
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Old March 11, 2001, 03:54 PM   #13
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What the hell is the GOA smoking? This bill just doesn't exist!
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Old March 11, 2001, 04:30 PM   #14
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Dangus,

I assure you, this bill DOES exist. It's also known as the "McCain-Feingold" bill. Log on to the U.S. Senate website and do a search for S.27. This bill is simply an attack on the 1st Amendment camoflaged under the label of "Campaign Finance Reform" The bill is very dangerous and needs to be defeated. Write your senators now.
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Old March 11, 2001, 06:41 PM   #15
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Doh, I see the problem. This website with the bills doesn't have the current session's bills in it's database yet so it was returning results for last year's s.27
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Old March 11, 2001, 06:44 PM   #16
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I still can't find any sign of this bill on the Senate website or on Thomas Register. Someone got a link other than the GOA?
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Old March 11, 2001, 06:50 PM   #17
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I think you guys are screwing this up, I think you mean S.26
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Old March 11, 2001, 08:00 PM   #18
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It's s27.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...:s27is.txt.pdf
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Old March 12, 2001, 03:08 AM   #19
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The Senate's own website lists this bill as S.26
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Old March 12, 2001, 07:21 AM   #20
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Traitor mccain and

I sure hope that you guys in Az. band together and dump this guy, this "Campaign Finance Reform" is going to cost all of us valuable time and money defending the 1ST Amendment, while we should be defending the Second!
oops, I think I just let their plan out of the bag
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