1911 in .40 S&W

The Griffon · May 16, 2000, 10:53 AM

Just wishful thinking on my part. I think having a 1911 in .40 would be neat. No other reason, just because. After all Llama made it in 9mm why can't Kimber, Springfield, or Colt make one in .40 ? Comments anyone?

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buzz_knox · May 16, 2000, 11:03 AM

Kimber, Colt and Springfield all have or currently do manufacture .40 1911s. Generally, these are the smaller models (i.e. Kimber Ultra Carry and Compact, Springfield Champion, Cold Defender). I know Kimber is still making them and Springfield probably is. Colt may have dropped the .40 from the caliber offerings when they "streamlined" their product line.

I've always thought a .40 1911 makes the most sense in the smaller carry pieces. If you want a full size 1911, I'd rather have the original .45 or a 10 mm (which can be modified for .40 or .357Sig simply by changing the barrel).

**James K** · May 16, 2000, 11:03 AM

Companies respond to demand. If you would like to see a new product, write to the companies who make similar products and tell them what you want and would buy if it were available. (Be reasonable - Ruger is not going to make the 101 in 40mm Bofors, no matter how many letters they get.)

Jim

Jim

ClubLab · May 16, 2000, 11:25 AM

The Kimber .40 is a nice gun, and Buzz is correct it is compact in size. Hard to find off the shelf, I just ran into one and grabbed it. Getting answers out of Kimber is never easy if they still do produc, ect. My understanding is that they "offered" a bunch of different set-ups but put very few into production.

The little lady likes it when she's at a class and shooting 500+ rounds. She runs around the planet with a .45 but it's nice to have a choice of cal in the same system.

Fred J. Drumheller · May 16, 2000, 11:34 AM

Want a 1911 in .40 S&W? How about a rompin' stompin' mastadon killer in the same package? Get yourself a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm Auto. They generally sell used at a discount because non reloaders don't want to pay the tariff to shoot them.

Order a .40 S&W barrel from BarSto, a 19# recoil spring from Wolff, and a couple of mags from Chip McCormick.

Now, you've got two guns. A rompin' Stompin' mastadon killer, and a defence gun that's fun to shoot, and cheap to shoot.

Yr. Obt. Svnt.

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Fred J. Drumheller
NRA Life
NRA Golden Eagle

The Griffon · May 16, 2000, 05:18 PM

Being that I'm not that familiar with Kimbar I didn't know that they made a .40 in the 1911. And i've never seen one at my local gun shop. Thanks guys.

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jthuang · May 16, 2000, 06:15 PM

ParaOrdnance also makes some nice 1911s in .40 S&W. The high-capacity magazines may be too fat for some people with small hands (i.e., me!) but give them a looksee.

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

Casey · May 17, 2000, 09:55 AM

I like my Kimber Gold Match (.45 ACP) so well that I ordered a Kimber Gold Match (.40 S&W) last November. I finally cancelled it about a month ago. Although Kimber was willing to make it, they told the dealer I was ordering from that they had a such a backlog of orders for .45 ACPs (around 10,000) that the order for a .40 S&W was a low priority.

I cancelled that order and ordered a Premier II in .40 S&W from Les Baer. I have no problem with Kimber, they are just going with what is selling best. I am also glad to know that the market for high quality .45 ACP's is booming!

Casey

ak9 · May 19, 2000, 10:48 AM

The Kimber .40sw is out there. My dealer has a procarry in it. The only question is why the .40 when you can have .45 in the same package (other then capacity)?

BigG · May 19, 2000, 05:08 PM

What about a glock?

Ouch, hey, watch it with the tar and feathers! Not so hard! ...

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o I raised my hand to eye level, like pointing a finger, and fired. Wild Bill Hickok
o If you have to shoot a man, shoot him in the guts... Wild Bill Hickok
o 45 ACP: Give 'em a new navel! BigG
o It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error. Justice Robert H. Jackson
o It is error alone that needs government support; truth can stand by itself. Tom Jefferson
o When you attempt to rationalize two inconsistent positions, you risk drowning as your own sewage backs up. BigG

denfoote · May 20, 2000, 05:40 AM

Griffon,
Although I am not into 1911's, or the .40 S&W, I will help as best I can.
STI International makes what appears to be a pretty stout line of 1911 style pistols in .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and 9MM.
I have read some good things about them.
Their address, if you are interested is:
STI International
114 Halmar Cove
Georgetown, TX, 78628

PH: (512) 819-0656
FAX: (512) 819-0465

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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!

jaydee · May 20, 2000, 12:46 PM

Geee... Had I only known... My local dealer had a Kimber 40 Gold Match in the case for MONTHS!

Oh well...

If a 40 excites you, go check out the 40 Super...

The ballistics are AWESOME!
http://www.triton-ammo.com/40super.html

10 What??? We don't need no stinkin' metric guns!

[This message has been edited by jaydee (edited May 20, 2000).]

May 16, 2000, 10:53 AM	#1
The Griffon Member Join Date: April 13, 2000 Posts: 22	Just wishful thinking on my part. I think having a 1911 in .40 would be neat. No other reason, just because. After all Llama made it in 9mm why can't Kimber, Springfield, or Colt make one in .40 ? Comments anyone? ------------------ The difference between an optimist and a pessimist is the pessimist has more information.

May 16, 2000, 11:03 AM	#2
buzz_knox Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1999 Location: Knoxville, in the Free State of Tennesse Posts: 4,191	Kimber, Colt and Springfield all have or currently do manufacture .40 1911s. Generally, these are the smaller models (i.e. Kimber Ultra Carry and Compact, Springfield Champion, Cold Defender). I know Kimber is still making them and Springfield probably is. Colt may have dropped the .40 from the caliber offerings when they "streamlined" their product line. I've always thought a .40 1911 makes the most sense in the smaller carry pieces. If you want a full size 1911, I'd rather have the original .45 or a 10 mm (which can be modified for .40 or .357Sig simply by changing the barrel).

May 16, 2000, 11:03 AM	#3
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,428	Companies respond to demand. If you would like to see a new product, write to the companies who make similar products and tell them what you want and would buy if it were available. (Be reasonable - Ruger is not going to make the 101 in 40mm Bofors, no matter how many letters they get.) Jim Jim

May 16, 2000, 11:25 AM	#4
ClubLab Junior Member Join Date: May 8, 2000 Posts: 5	The Kimber .40 is a nice gun, and Buzz is correct it is compact in size. Hard to find off the shelf, I just ran into one and grabbed it. Getting answers out of Kimber is never easy if they still do produc, ect. My understanding is that they "offered" a bunch of different set-ups but put very few into production. The little lady likes it when she's at a class and shooting 500+ rounds. She runs around the planet with a .45 but it's nice to have a choice of cal in the same system.

May 16, 2000, 11:34 AM	#5
Fred J. Drumheller Retired Screen Name Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 90	Want a 1911 in .40 S&W? How about a rompin' stompin' mastadon killer in the same package? Get yourself a Colt Delta Elite in 10mm Auto. They generally sell used at a discount because non reloaders don't want to pay the tariff to shoot them. Order a .40 S&W barrel from BarSto, a 19# recoil spring from Wolff, and a couple of mags from Chip McCormick. Now, you've got two guns. A rompin' Stompin' mastadon killer, and a defence gun that's fun to shoot, and cheap to shoot. Yr. Obt. Svnt. ------------------ Fred J. Drumheller NRA Life NRA Golden Eagle

May 16, 2000, 05:18 PM	#6
The Griffon Member Join Date: April 13, 2000 Posts: 22	Being that I'm not that familiar with Kimbar I didn't know that they made a .40 in the 1911. And i've never seen one at my local gun shop. Thanks guys. ------------------ The difference between an optimist and a pessimist is the pessimist has more information.

May 16, 2000, 06:15 PM	#7
jthuang Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2000 Posts: 828	ParaOrdnance also makes some nice 1911s in .40 S&W. The high-capacity magazines may be too fat for some people with small hands (i.e., me!) but give them a looksee. Justin ------------------ Justin T. Huang, Esq. late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania

May 17, 2000, 09:55 AM	#8
Casey Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2000 Location: Delaware, OH, USA Posts: 279	I like my Kimber Gold Match (.45 ACP) so well that I ordered a Kimber Gold Match (.40 S&W) last November. I finally cancelled it about a month ago. Although Kimber was willing to make it, they told the dealer I was ordering from that they had a such a backlog of orders for .45 ACPs (around 10,000) that the order for a .40 S&W was a low priority. I cancelled that order and ordered a Premier II in .40 S&W from Les Baer. I have no problem with Kimber, they are just going with what is selling best. I am also glad to know that the market for high quality .45 ACP's is booming! Casey

May 19, 2000, 10:48 AM	#9
ak9 Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 1999 Location: Corpus Christi, Tx., USA Posts: 601	The Kimber .40sw is out there. My dealer has a procarry in it. The only question is why the .40 when you can have .45 in the same package (other then capacity)?

May 19, 2000, 05:08 PM	#10
BigG Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 1999 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,260	What about a glock? Ouch, hey, watch it with the tar and feathers! Not so hard! ... ------------------ o I raised my hand to eye level, like pointing a finger, and fired. Wild Bill Hickok o If you have to shoot a man, shoot him in the guts... Wild Bill Hickok o 45 ACP: Give 'em a new navel! BigG o It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error. Justice Robert H. Jackson o It is error alone that needs government support; truth can stand by itself. Tom Jefferson o When you attempt to rationalize two inconsistent positions, you risk drowning as your own sewage backs up. BigG

May 20, 2000, 05:40 AM	#11
denfoote Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 1999 Location: Buckeye Arizona Posts: 5,526	Griffon, Although I am not into 1911's, or the .40 S&W, I will help as best I can. STI International makes what appears to be a pretty stout line of 1911 style pistols in .40 S&W, .45 ACP, and 9MM. I have read some good things about them. Their address, if you are interested is: STI International 114 Halmar Cove Georgetown, TX, 78628 PH: (512) 819-0656 FAX: (512) 819-0465 ------------------ BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!! Defend the Constitution from the foreign threat!!!!

May 20, 2000, 12:46 PM	#12
jaydee Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2000 Posts: 154	Geee... Had I only known... My local dealer had a Kimber 40 Gold Match in the case for MONTHS! Oh well... If a 40 excites you, go check out the 40 Super... The ballistics are AWESOME! http://www.triton-ammo.com/40super.html 10 What??? We don't need no stinkin' metric guns! [This message has been edited by jaydee (edited May 20, 2000).]