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Old August 15, 2014, 02:07 PM   #1
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Makarov grips - "different" on some IJ70's

Some of the PM/IJ70-18A Makarov pistols came with a "different" style black plastic grip. I am refering to Makarovs in 9x18 caliber with adjuctable sights. When I say different, I mean the grips have a slightly different shape low on the heel of the grip...and a different shape from military style grips. I realize this is not much of a description but it's the best I can do.

Anyway, if someone knows the "why" of this different grip, please let me know. I am presuming the gun is the same, and military grips could be installed on it if one wanted to change them out. But that is only a presumption.

Any suggestions and comments would be appreciated.

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Old August 15, 2014, 02:24 PM   #2
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I think it was "Baikal" brand Makarovs that used a funky looking black plastic grip that was different than the standard military style grip. It had more of a "skirt" at the bottom, for lack of a better description.

As to the "why," it was probably because these guns were intended for commercial sales, and the Russians wanted to downplay the origins of them. (Just a guess, however.)

Any original military style grip will fit on the gun providing that it's not a double stack model.
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Old August 16, 2014, 12:16 AM   #3
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Can't remember the exact details but some of these guns were having their grips replaced in country to comply with a 'sporting purposes' rule. Seems like they added a thumbrest and enclosed the back of the grip frame. May have been an overall length thing I just can't remember. Search "Makarov thumbrest grips" on Google/Bing and you'll probably find more info.
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Old August 16, 2014, 08:42 AM   #4
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Some of the PM/IJ70-18A Makarov pistols came with a "different" style black plastic grip. I am refering to Makarovs in 9x18 caliber with adjuctable sights. When I say different, I mean the grips have a slightly different shape low on the heel of the grip...and a different shape from military style grips. I realize this is not much of a description but it's the best I can do.
Do you have pictures?

I've had a number of different Makarov grips over time. My Baikal .380 Mak's grip is pretty much identical to the milsurp grip.
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Old August 16, 2014, 03:27 PM   #5
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firearm29: "Seems like they added a thumbrest and enclosed the back of the grip frame."

The cheesy after-market thumb rest grip was intended both to make it a "sporterized" gun and also to increase the overall width (tying in with the US government rule on minimum overall dimensions for imported handguns).

All Pistolet Makarovas have a one-piece wrap-around grip. That's a basic feature of the pistol's design.
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Old August 16, 2014, 03:38 PM   #6
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Gene Pool: "Some of the PM/IJ70-18A Makarov pistols came with a "different" style black plastic grip. I am refering to Makarovs in 9x18 caliber with adjuctable sights. When I say different, I mean the grips have a slightly different shape low on the heel of the grip...and a different shape from military style grips."

Some IJ70-18A PMs came with a black grip similar to the East German grip. Some came with the red/brown bakelite "military" grip with the lanyard loop on the left side. And some have both.
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Old August 16, 2014, 03:39 PM   #7
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Just to clarify: Are you talking about a single column Makarov or a double stack hi-cap model?

As I stated, original military grips will not fit on the double stack models due to modifications of the frame.

The best grip I have found for the hi-cap models is the Pearce grip. It actually feels better on the hi-cap than one does on the standards, and it certainly looks better.
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Old August 16, 2014, 03:42 PM   #8
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I thought that the OP was talking about the IJ70-18A. That one is single-stack, as far as I know. The high-cap double-stack was the IJ70-18AH. It, as you say, does have a very different grip.
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Old August 16, 2014, 04:28 PM   #9
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Old August 16, 2014, 06:43 PM   #10
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There ya' go. The top one is the classic military grip, and the bottom appears to be a rubberized(?) version of the East German grip. (But you knew that! )
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Old August 16, 2014, 07:30 PM   #11
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There ya' go. The top one is the classic military grip, and the bottom appears to be a rubberized(?) version of the East German grip. (But you knew that! )
Bottom one is a Pearce Grip. I'm beginning to think the OP might be referring to a hi-cap Makarov, which used a very funky looking grip.

Unfortunately, the OP hasn't been back since his initial post.
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Old August 16, 2014, 09:49 PM   #12
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I guess I had never really looked at the Pearce grip before. It does look a lot like the East German, doesn't it?

Yeah, I agree. The OP must have had one of the high-caps. They do have a strange looking grip. I wonder if maybe he sold it and moved on?
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