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Old July 17, 2014, 12:46 PM   #1
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Any advice for a first time conceal carrier?

I'm going to start carrying my HK45c for the first time as soon as my holster arrives. This will be my first carrying a firearm and I feel kind on nervous still. The weather in south Texas is pretty hot and humid year round so I'm worried about the comfort factor amongst other things. So I've come here looking for advice in conceal carrying. Position of carry, dressing around to not accidentally show, etc. Anything will help.

[EDIT] Do you get used to the weight of your CC?

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Old July 17, 2014, 12:54 PM   #2
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Yea, do not be constantly putting your hand on it to "check it". I know it may seem like an odd thing to remind you of but the natural tendency of a new carrier is to always be checking their weapon.
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Old July 17, 2014, 01:03 PM   #3
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1) A good belt is more important than a good holster.
2) Keep your hands away from it. You don't need to check it every 5 minutes.
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Old July 17, 2014, 01:07 PM   #4
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Just pretend it isn't there, and no, not everyone is going to notice it, no matter how paranoid you get thinking they will......
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Old July 17, 2014, 01:39 PM   #5
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Practice ccw at home for a week or two befor going in public. Out in public is not the place to discover the many nuances you may be particular to. E.g. going to the bathroom.
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Old July 17, 2014, 01:52 PM   #6
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1. Unless you hug everyone you meet, the paranoia you experience of someone noticing it are greatly unfounded and are all in your head.
2. Resist the urge to check it and touch it.
3. Invest in a good belt.
4. Begin making a habit out of checking the entrances to different buildings to see if they are posted (if the signs carry force of law in your state).
5. Try it out for a day or two in your house before you go in public. The urge to check and readjust your belt is strongest in the first several days and this will help break the habit of checking.
6. Before deciding where on the body you want to carry it, try several things out: sitting in your vehicle, sitting in your office chair/lazy boy/wherever you spend the bulk of your day, going to the restroom, and light jogging or fast motions.
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Old July 17, 2014, 02:05 PM   #7
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So far, other posters have all given you good advice:
1. Be sure you're familiar with local laws on the subject. (www.handgunlaw.us)
2. Wear it around the house for a few days to get used to the feel.
3. Avoid the temptation to touch the gun every few minutes.
4. A good belt goes a long way to making carry comfortable.
5. So does a proper holster.
6. Remember that in spite of feeling like everyone and their dog automatically knows that you're carrying, they don't.

For the first, oh, probably couple of weeks that I carry, I kept waiting for someone to start screaming about a Man With A Gun, but it never happened. That feeling goes away.
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Old July 17, 2014, 02:07 PM   #8
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  • Become LESS agressive that ever; you cannot afford to get into a 'fight' anymore
  • A gun is useless without situational awareness; if you never see it coming, the gun can't save you
  • If you pull, be ready to use it; very few career criminals are frightened at the mere sight of a gun
  • If you haven't gotten any formal training, consider it as essential as ammo, a holster and the weapon itself
  • Play 'what if' with yourself to create plans for various situations: 'what if' someone stuck up the bank while I'm in line? 'What if' someone grabbed my kid?


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Old July 17, 2014, 04:24 PM   #9
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Training for surviving a potentially deadly encounter is very different than training to shoot.
Get both, if you haven't, yet.
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Old July 17, 2014, 04:39 PM   #10
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Cover well and made sure you are practicing drawing from what you wear as a cover.
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Old July 17, 2014, 04:40 PM   #11
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In Minnesota, I don't have to be nearly as careful as you do about concealment because OC is legal here if you have a permit. I carry a 4" service revolver on my belt at about 8:00, covered by an untucked tee-shirt or polo shirt.

Just as an experiment, I wore a different holster that rides a lot lower to work once (empty) to see if anybody noticed. The bottom half of the holster was exposed, and you couldn't really tell if it was empty unless my shirt rode up. Nobody even saw it -- and the people I work with certainly would have said something (probably a dumb joke)
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Old July 17, 2014, 04:55 PM   #12
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Be prepared to invest in multiple holsters. You may find certain IWB works with certain clothing. And you may find yourself wanting to match your belt/holster to your shoes, so prepare to have a brown holster as well as black. And then you might find a kydex holster fits well sometimes. And when it gets chilly, and you find yourself wearing a longer coat, you might want an outer waist band holster.

I'm not addicted! I can stop anytime I want!

You mentioned heat in your area, I have always liked having a layer of thin clothing between my body and my holstered weapon. Underarmors Heatgear is ideal for this. As would any of the compression style shirts now available from a variety of sportswear manufacturers.

I have been using belts bought from Rafter S Gunleather, but it seems they are no longer in business. My next purchase is likely to be from a local leather shop.
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Old July 17, 2014, 05:09 PM   #13
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Old July 17, 2014, 05:28 PM   #14
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Be prepared to invest in multiple holsters. You may find certain IWB works with certain clothing. And you may find yourself wanting to match your belt/holster to your shoes, so prepare to have a brown holster as well as black. And then you might find a kydex holster fits well sometimes. And when it gets chilly, and you find yourself wearing a longer coat, you might want an outer waist band holster.*
I bought a mitch rosen USD II for my carry holster. I want to carry pretty much all day so I'm curious to how it feels to carry concealed after a normal day?
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Old July 17, 2014, 05:56 PM   #15
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Like the Kenny Rodgers song about card playing. Know when to run.
Having a weapon does not make you bullet proof. If you pull a gun to control a situation, then they pull a gun. What are your choices then? Self defense in court doesn't work well when you draw first. Someone else with a CCW sees you pull out and he thinks you are the problem.

A lot of people get into trouble by trying to be the hero. If lives are not in danger before you pull out the weapon, they certainly will be after.
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Old July 17, 2014, 06:13 PM   #16
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Don't draw it unless you're gonna use it.
Don't use it unless you plan to kill the BG.
My personal opinion is that you should not use it unless your life or someone else's life is in danger, property can be replaced.
Remember that in today's litigious society, even tho it was a righteous shoot you can still be sued in civil court, incurring horrendous expense to defend yourself. GW
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Old July 17, 2014, 06:26 PM   #17
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Whenever I'm experimenting with a new holster or a new method of carry I use a red gun or a blue gun to "proof" the concept in public. This way if there's a problem and my concealed "gun" becomes unintentionally exposed then it's not a crime because it's not an actual firearm.

My primary carry gun is a Glock 19 and I have an old ASP Glock 19 red gun. My secondary carry gun is a Glock 26 and I have a Ring's blue gun for that.

It allows me to experiment and "proof" with confidence.

Good luck!
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Old July 17, 2014, 06:28 PM   #18
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On the subject of self defense, don't rely on anything from an internet forum.
Get real training, like from http://modernselfprotection.com/ for example, in your state.
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Old July 17, 2014, 07:21 PM   #19
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^^^^THIS X1000^^^^^

Go to a recognized shooting school. Your life, the lives of your loved ones and quite frankly the lives of anyone around you are worth the cost involved. NOTHING you are likly to do has the responsibility or potential monatary costs of carring a pistol in public

Get the appropriate training
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Old July 17, 2014, 08:15 PM   #20
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Lots of good posts. I'm kind of new to CC - 8 months. I too live in a warm climate. So we have some things in common. (I don't believe you mentioned if you're male or female.) I'm an average size guy, fairly normal weight. I found that a loose fitting button-up short-sleeve shirt shirt with an undershirt works well. The two layers adds to concealment and doesn't seem any hotter. (I was a polo shirt guy before I started carrying.)

My primary carry is a compact 9mm in an IWB holster. It conceals very well. I also sometimes carry a Smith 686 3"bbl in an OWB - it's a large gun but conceals better than I would have thought. It's rounded grip resists printing. My last CC gun is a Glock 29 in an IWB or OWB. It has sharp edges and is hardest to conceal - I usually reserve it for the cooler months when I have a windbreaker on.

I usually carry at the 3 O'clock position. Especially with my big Smith. I like having the grip right under my arm when it's naturally to my side - adds to concealment. Sometimes I'll move back to the 3:30 position with my 9mm because it's more comfortable driving and still conceals when I get out of my car.

Get a good holster. You might end up getting a couple different ones. Maybe a few; until you find something that is right for you. And as previously mentioned by several others: get a good belt.

All my carry holsters and belts come from this guy: http://theisholsters.com/index.php

He makes excellent products, one at a time, to order. He's prompt. And he's a great person to do business with.
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Old July 17, 2014, 08:36 PM   #21
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Don't draw it unless you're gonna use it.
Don't use it unless you plan to kill the BG.
My personal opinion is that you should not use it unless your life or someone else's life is in danger, property can be replaced.
Remember that in today's litigious society, even tho it was a righteous shoot you can still be sued in civil court, incurring horrendous expense to defend yourself. GW
I would like to modify this advice:

1. Don't draw unless you are in danger of grievous bodily harm to you or someone you want to defend. You do not have to use it (fire) as you can deter in some cases. You should train to know when to do this or not.
2. You do not plan to kill the BG but to stop the aggressor.

These points are covered in quality training.

As far as TX heat - a pocket gun of reasonable power or I go with the t shirt and a floppy light weight shirt. Check out Academy for Magellan fishing shirts - not that expensive and very light.
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Old July 18, 2014, 08:10 AM   #22
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What they said:

get a good belt

A good belt goes a long way to making carry comfortable

Invest in a good belt

A good belt is more important than a good holster

You will carry more often and buy a lot fewer holsters if you do the belt first.

Jim The Beltman is my personal favorite.
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Old July 18, 2014, 08:27 AM   #23
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Try not to "print".
Carry like it was illegal.
Get a holster that fits you the best.
I prefer: http://www.rolsongunleather.com/ located in your state
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Old July 18, 2014, 09:14 AM   #24
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And ........ relax.
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Old July 18, 2014, 01:12 PM   #25
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Skip the cheapest holster option. Those will end up taking up space in your closet. I know. I have several. Spend the money and get a quality holster.
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