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Old June 11, 2014, 10:04 AM   #26
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Doesn't Norinco or Poly Tech come from China? From mainland China? The nation that was referred to as RED CHINA when I was a lad?

I was aware that we sold the tooling to make M14s to Taiwan (aka Nationalist China), quite some time ago.

So, please correct me, if I am in error. If it comes from China, and is not license built, how is it NOT a knock off?

Lastly, I've sold off a couple of my domesticated Norinco and Poly Tech M14s, all of them sold for more than $3K each.
Congratulations! Clearly you are a heck of a businessman! I wouldn't pay that much for one, no matter what it was bolted into, had bolted on, or replaced.

But then, I'm cheap. Also my US built rack grade M1A that I bought for $500 with half dozen mags, spare stock, scope mount AND scope (used, and a fair market price, at the time) has met or exceeded all my needs for more than 30 years, and I see no point in buying another, particularly at several times the cost.
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
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Old June 11, 2014, 10:24 AM   #27
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You are right sir. Polytech and norinco are from the red china. We didn't give them the equipment. They copy (steal) from everybody. I am quite sure they knock off the sks and ak too, i.e. they didn't pay the Russian jack for that.

Anyway I do think m14 is a better rifle than ptr91. It is polytech that I have problem with. Don't mind buying norinco sks or ak, as I have less problem they ripping off the Russians. But just not our m14. It ain't right.

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Old June 11, 2014, 10:36 AM   #28
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Lastly, I've sold off a couple of my domesticated Norinco and Poly Tech M14s, all of them sold for more than $3K each.

44 AMP Congratulations! Clearly you are a heck of a businessman!
Maybe so, but once you understand the cost and wait involved to replace one of these custom built M14s, $3K is a bargain.
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Old June 11, 2014, 12:01 PM   #29
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The tooling was given to Taiwan (ROC) not Mainland China. The Russians did set Mainland China up initially with their SKS production, not sure about the AK's though.
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Old June 13, 2014, 11:14 AM   #30
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Polytech M1A's are good rifles. I would take those anyday over the PTR-91.

Not knocking the PTR, but the M1A variants are my favorite rifles.
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