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Old May 16, 2014, 09:55 PM   #1
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Feral Hog pistol in .357 magnum

I'm not looking for pistol model suggestions. I already know which one I would get. I'm pretty inexperienced at hunting, so I'm looking for one technical suggestion. Would a .357 magnum specifically with a 4" barrel be a decent choice to hunt feral hogs? I'm guessing with Buffalo Bore 180 grain bullets.
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Old May 17, 2014, 12:00 AM   #2
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If it's legal in your state, it will work fine.
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Old May 17, 2014, 12:58 AM   #3
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The Federal Cast Core Vital Shok 180gr. is also a good round.
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Old May 17, 2014, 01:38 AM   #4
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yes, it will be fine.
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Old May 19, 2014, 06:04 PM   #5
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I guess it would depend how big your folks hogs are. Pigs worund here only get up to maybe 200 lbs on a huge one. I'd be comftorable with my old Dan Wesson 4'. If you live where there's 4-600 lbs pigs you may want something different.
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Old May 19, 2014, 08:04 PM   #6
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I personally think a .357 handgun is light for oinkers, so I'd personally go with a 6-8" barrel gun and feed it the hottest loads I could find, probably 158 or 180 grain soft-nose loads.
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Old May 19, 2014, 10:00 PM   #7
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I like the buffalobore 180 grain loads. They work well and are very hot. Good luck on the hunt!

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Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull.

all 25 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple
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Old May 20, 2014, 03:34 AM   #8
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"I'm not looking for pistol model suggestions. I already know which one I would get. I'm pretty inexperienced at hunting, so I'm looking for one technical suggestion. Would a .357 magnum specifically with a 4" barrel be a decent choice to hunt feral hogs? I'm guessing with Buffalo Bore 180 grain bullets."




To me a .357 will work with the right shooter, but you said you are inexperienced at hunting which sends up a red flag. Most folks do not start hunting with a handgun.

The internals in a hog are not in the same place as in a deer.

Length of barrel, if you are starting out, I would recommend a 6" barrel.

There are durn few 400 to 600 pound hogs running around the woods unless they have been pen raised and turned loose. In a year we are lucky to trap one which will top 300 lbs.

Caliber is choice, I prefer the 41 Mag versus a .357, the extra "umph" is nice. The .44 Mag in some pistols is not comfortable to shoot for some folks and I do not like the extra noise.

For shooting hogs up close, as when using dogs, a .41 with a 4 5/8s barrel is my preference. For longer shooting, a minimum of 6" and preferably 10" barrel.
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Old May 20, 2014, 02:56 PM   #9
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I hunted with a 357 dan Wesson for hogs for 20 years growing up in florida. I hand loaded 170gr speer sp and 180gr hard cast and shot factory federal 180gr hard cast. Corbon also has a 180gr sp 1200fps. I used a 8" barrel so velocity would be a little higher but the federal load will do the job and is a very mild load . My hand loads were 180gr at almost 1300fps. Not a good one handed load to shoot. Both will kill 350 lb plus hogs with the hotter loads breaking both front shoulders on a 382lber. Heres some you can buy from underwood . There ammo has chronographed well for me in shorter barrels in different cartridges. .
http://www.underwoodammo.com/357magn...gcboxof50.aspx
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Old May 20, 2014, 06:23 PM   #10
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Depends on if you can shoot your chosen revolver.

I shot several moose and a buffalo with a 4" Model 28 using 150 Gr LSWCs. (Lyman bullet 358477). That mold may be hard to find but 158 LSWC are easy to find.

Last I heard moose and buffalo are bigger then hogs.

Its more about shooting in my book.

Shoot a bunch of bowling pin matches with your revolver with full 357 loads. Get to where you can clean the pins off the table with one cylinder in reasonable time, you're good to go.
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Old May 20, 2014, 07:19 PM   #11
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4'' is a little short for hunting IMO.
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Old May 21, 2014, 08:21 PM   #12
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With a scope, yes but marginally, and keep your shots under 50 yards. With iron sights, no - not unless you keep your shots very short (under 20 yards; maybe 25). Just not enough sight radius to ensure a good hit.
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Old May 23, 2014, 05:24 PM   #13
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russian hogs vs henry 45 colt

needles to say I had to scope my henry at 25 yrds I can stack them,50 yrds I cant see,bummer ,anyway I went hog hunting with it an a buddy,came up on some averaged 200-300 lbs they get really big here in ms., 75 yrds out shot a boar dead in the head between the eyes,bout 300 lbs.,that bugger grunted an shook his head walked off a bit an ran off,i was using 250 swc 1,400 fps, I don't like loosing an animal, so they got the hog dogs an we found him about 1.5 miles from where I shot him,he was shot right where I said I hit him,this rifle does not like 300 gr. bullets,it shoots all over,200 gr. shoots the best but I figured that was to light for a hog
I wont be hunting hogs no more with this rifle,if I cant get a clean kill I normally use a 6x284 with a 87 gr.bthp @3200 fps an do a behind the ear shot ,an im 2 to 300 yrds, away so I can wait for the shot they don't see me,that head shot should have dropped that hog,not bounced off im sorry I didn't mention my henry is the big boy 45 colt
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Old May 23, 2014, 05:42 PM   #14
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needles to say I had to scope my henry at 25 yrds I can stack them,50 yrds I cant see,bummer ,anyway I went hog hunting with it an a buddy,came up on some averaged 200-300 lbs they get really big here in ms., 75 yrds out shot a boar dead in the head between the eyes,bout 300 lbs.,that bugger grunted an shook his head walked off a bit an ran off,i was using 250 swc 1,400 fps, I don't like loosing an animal, so they got the hog dogs an we found him about 1.5 miles from where I shot him,he was shot right where I said I hit him,this rifle does not like 300 gr. bullets,it shoots all over,200 gr. shoots the best but I figured that was to light for a hog
I wont be hunting hogs no more with this rifle,if I cant get a clean kill I normally use a 6x284 with a 87 gr.bthp @3200 fps an do a behind the ear shot ,an im 2 to 300 yrds, away so I can wait for the shot they don't see me,that head shot should have dropped that hog,not bounced off im sorry I didn't mention my henry is the big boy 45 colt


What am I missing? You say you can't see at 50 but you shot a hog at 75?
At 75 yards a 240 grain cast bullet bounced off a hogs head?
WOW.
By the way. Where do you hunt hogs where you can see them at 200 to 300 yards?
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Old May 23, 2014, 06:19 PM   #15
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Everyone thinks they are Marshall Dillon and Wyatt Earp with a pistol and Elmer Keith is their religious figure.

I went and watched at a modern pistol range for some time since I had some time to kill. The folks cannot hit a target at 7 1/2 yards with a 2 hand grip.

All they do is bang, bang, bang, as fast as they can. Then you hear the double tap over and over. When you look at their targets, there are no holes in the targets.

Then these folks wonder, how can I not kill critters with a pistol.

Along with a Hunters certification, a certification of marksmanship should be required to receiving a hunting license.

In all honesty, if you cannot shoot a 95 at 25 yards and 85 at 50 yards, offhand with a pistol, you do not need to hunt critters with a pistol.....
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Old May 23, 2014, 07:10 PM   #16
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I'm with FDF. A mistake with a .357 on a hog of modest size can get you seriously injured or dead.
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Old May 23, 2014, 07:11 PM   #17
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it's all about shot placement

Shot placement rules the day. If you can place your shots with the 357 into the vitals it will work fine. If shot placement with that gun at the distances your hog is at are iffy it's a problem. You can kill hogs with a 22 if you place the shot right. I have had one run off wounded from a poorly placed 3006 hit. So how well can you hit with the four inch 357? That's the question.
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Old May 23, 2014, 08:46 PM   #18
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Yeah, like I said, .357 magnum is underpowered for larger hogs when it's coming out of a handgun.

I'd steer clear and go for a 10mm or .44 magnum option.
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Old May 23, 2014, 09:54 PM   #19
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Use the handgun of reasonable power that you can shoot very
well with.
Most handgunners have a hard enough time with a .44 magnum.
If you can shoot well with the .357 using good loads then that's what you should use.
How many game animals have you taken with a handgun?
With a rifle?
How long have you been hunting game?
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Old May 24, 2014, 12:14 AM   #20
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Never hunted before. I was thinking 50 yards or less. I'm not sure if I'll get a scope for it or not. I plan on going with someone experienced so I can learn. I'm not a fan of the concept of putting out food and target shooting. I want to learn how to track and actually hunt. I figure this will end up with me close. I'm choosing feral hogs as the target because I see hunting them as doing everyone and everything a big favor. Well, except the hogs.
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Old May 24, 2014, 05:09 AM   #21
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"I'm with FDF. A mistake with a .357 on a hog of modest size can get you seriously injured or dead."

Several years ago I shot a very large hog for our area. It was shot a near dark while deer hunting and ran off. My wife was with me and we waited a few minutes and went to find it. While looking for it, I heard it go between us. It woofed as it passed me. I told the wife, it's too dark and we need to go, she did not hear it pass.

I went back the next morning at daylight and found the hog, it crossed very close to me.

Later I told her what I knew and where I found the hog. Her response was you shoot them at dark, you trail them in the dark, by yourself.

Lessons learned:

1. Black hogs in the dark are hard to see even with a Mag-light..
2. Use enough gun, I have killed a lot of hogs with a .357, but under the right
conditions.

We are in the woods with hogs all the time and I really do not worry about my safety. Folks dream about a hog running at them.

This year I had a hog about 200 pounds or so with an attitude. Each time I would see him he would change his body posture and walk towards me. He seemed to know that I did not have a gun at the time. This happened 4 or 5 times and I decided he had to go.

I hunt hogs with a T/C Contender 30-30, it changes the rules.

A .357 will kill hogs, I just think it's on the light side and most folks are not pistol shots.
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Old May 24, 2014, 05:28 AM   #22
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"Never hunted before. I was thinking 50 yards or less. I'm not sure if I'll get a scope for it or not. I plan on going with someone experienced so I can learn. I'm not a fan of the concept of putting out food and target shooting. I want to learn how to track and actually hunt. I figure this will end up with me close. I'm choosing feral hogs as the target because I see hunting them as doing everyone and everything a big favor. Well, except the"

Finding a mentor is the right way to start.

Actually a scope can be a liability unless you get a variable scope, it limits your field of view a lot. Once the pistol fires, all vision is lost for a bit, the scope blocks your sight as it comes backwards.

Mounting scopes on pistols requires more knowledge than on rifles so they are not sheared off due to recoil.

Tracking hogs is not going to work. Hogs are either for the most part are shot over bait, or with dogs.

Hunting hogs does not really help the landownerr, removing one hog does not do much. Trapping is the favored way. Shooting a hog helps the shooter with meat, nothing else.

Hogs are the most intelligent critters in the woods, they learn very quickly when hunted.

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Old May 24, 2014, 11:44 AM   #23
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Yeah, like I said, .357 magnum is underpowered for larger hogs when it's coming out of a handgun.

I'd steer clear and go for a 10mm or .44 magnum option.
not wanting to turn this in to a 357 vs 10mm thing but the upper end of 10mm and 357 magnum are the same. Some (not me) would even argue the 357 is hotter with better SD for hunting.
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Old May 24, 2014, 11:56 AM   #24
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With the right bullet and placement .357 mag should be sufficient. 200 grains of .358 cal projectile has a hell of a lot higher sectional density than a 200 grain .40 cal/10mm
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Old May 24, 2014, 10:46 PM   #25
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Are the 200 grain handloads? I'd only seen 180 grain factory ammo out there. I intend to start hand loading at some point. I'm guessing next year.
I'm not thinking I'll solve the problem hunting feral hogs. We never will. But, every one taken out is helpful.
I know they're nocturnal, but why not hunt them in the day? They have to go somewhere. I figure that's where the hunting part comes in.
Good point about how smart they are, and possibly adaptive. That might be the biggest wrench in the works of all.
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