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Old May 7, 2014, 07:31 AM   #26
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That is an incredibly useful test, kudos and many, many thanks!
With my luck it figures that the MilComm TW25b I use wasn't included.
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Old May 7, 2014, 10:44 AM   #27
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Great report!

Thanks for all the hard work.

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Old May 7, 2014, 01:27 PM   #28
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DIY,

Thank you sir for your awesome contribution!

Best regards...
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Old May 7, 2014, 01:45 PM   #29
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Another WOW! Outstanding evaluation, DIY, and easy to read results!
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Old May 7, 2014, 03:48 PM   #30
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WOW, Good work DIY_guy,
Its an Eyeopener, Nothing I use made it past 72 hours and GunZilla played out at 24 hours..
I will have to test my can of RustyDuck now, I use a lot of that as well.
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Old May 8, 2014, 07:12 AM   #31
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Upon completion of this evaluation I sent emails to several of the manufacturers of the products used. Thus far (4 days after sending the emails) I have received only one reply and it came from the founders of Frog Lube. Here is that reply.

“Ron,

We are stunned by the exhaustive and comprehensive approach of your testing. And we are quite flattered at the result. You have done something no one else has done.

We do our testing in primarily in operating firearms, but we have done some technical tests such as the corrosion and lubricity testing and have seen the same results.

May we use this link to share with our customers on line and in our facebook page? We have lots of fans (and a few competitors) who would appreciate seeing this.

Also, we very much appreciate your 'objectivity' and your public claims. This strengthens the validity of your results.

Thanks again for sharing this profound work with us.

Larry Lasky & Stacy Lasky
FrogLube Founders “

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I replied to them with the following:

“Feel free to share or distribute the info as you see fit. Prior to this evaluation I had never used Frog Lube (or many of the products I evaluated) so I was curious and ended up doing this evaluation. My search for lube and corrosion solution was not entirely firearms centric as I am more of an archer and bowhunter so I would like to make this request. Archery and Bowhunting are very large markets with direct overlap to firearms owners. The same holds true for the rapidly increasing crossbow and crossbowhunting market. All of these user groups require lubrication and corrosion solutions.

The main difference for the bowhunting and crossbow hunting market is the scent/smell of products we use due to how close bowhunters and perhaps crossbow hunters have to get to prey to make a successful shot. The minty smell of Frog Lube may keep this user group from using your product. Would it be possible to remove the minty scent and create a scent free version? Breaking into the archery/bowhunting and crossbow hunting market would create another demographic purchasing your product. Please consider it. You would certainly have me as a customer for more than just firearms usage.

Ron”
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Old May 8, 2014, 01:50 PM   #32
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DIY,
My insect repellant has cider oil as a cover, I have literally had deer walk next to me. So, I'm not so sure Mint is a Bad Oder, as long as it is natural..The stuff grows everywhere around here.. Just think'en out loud.
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Old May 8, 2014, 02:31 PM   #33
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Its not normal here in WI. I work pretty hard to be as free as I can and would rather bring no foreign scents in with me if possible. I thought it would open up a new market to them.
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Old May 8, 2014, 08:35 PM   #34
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Its been 288 hours (12 days) since Board #1 was placed outside and 264 hours (11 days) for Board #2 so I thought I would update. There has been some rain this week but lots of sun and wind and the trees are spreading all manner of pollen and debris in the air. The Sun’s UV rays have all but made the sharpie marker unreadable but I have a map and can still make it out enough to see.

Here are the two boards where they are residing on the patio.



And here are the close-ups of the samples.





As for Board #3 in my house. Its been 240 hours (10 days) and as expected, the indoor protection in a constant environment has them all still in fine shape.

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Old May 8, 2014, 11:28 PM   #35
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I am officially impressed. 11/12 days out in the elements and two of them are still resisting rust.

Any plans to re-test the friction reduction of the "good" performers after a set number of days out in the elements?
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Old May 9, 2014, 05:37 AM   #36
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3(not two) are still protecting against rust. And no not at this time.
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Old May 9, 2014, 07:56 PM   #37
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Results of gun care product evaluation

Picked up some of the one shot "tap one shot extreme use weapon cleaner/dry lube w/4x metal detector" today. Seems like great stuff. Pretty slick when dry. It says it has 9 later formula that withstands 400 hours of salt spray. So far I've used on 4 semi autos and did seem to smooth things out some even though these guns were already cleaned & lubed.
Tried some on a sliding door track & made a big difference. I'm sold on it. 7 oz can $13.
Ps.. I'll still use my eezox primarily for cleaning & finish with dry lube.
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Old May 11, 2014, 08:39 AM   #38
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Excellent job. Thanks for posting this.
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Old May 13, 2014, 03:57 PM   #39
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We have been experiencing torrential rains and flash flooding. When it isn’t raining its very humid. Its certainly been a wet spring. The UV rays have now completely erased the sharpie marker labels on the boards but I know which is which from prior photos. Here is a picture of the two boards with board #1 at 15 days (360 hours) and board #2 at 14 days (336 hours). The top 3 performing products are continuing to protect the steel plates.

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Old May 13, 2014, 09:54 PM   #40
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Wow, I am even more impressed as time passes.

I know I said it before, thanks again for doing this and sharing the results with all of us.
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Old May 16, 2014, 10:41 AM   #41
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Incredibly well-done: well-thought out, well-tested, well-documented and well-presented!
Great Work!
Thanks.
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Old May 17, 2014, 10:18 AM   #42
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I am amazed and very grateful for your report and study of this issue and products. I feel as though you should be compensated for your expense and time spent doing this report. I know a lot of people who would like to see this and will be sure they do. Thank you for the time and effort required to provide us with such a well done study.
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Old May 17, 2014, 10:35 AM   #43
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I love the Frog lube grease for long term protection of firearms.
LPS 3 is also a superior product in a spray can but now pricey at about $12 bucks.
Blaster came out with a product very similar to LPS 3 but at half the cost.
I bought 6 cans from Home Depot under $6 bucks.
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Old May 17, 2014, 11:19 AM   #44
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great research... Thank you.
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Old May 17, 2014, 12:00 PM   #45
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From your research one thing I gather is that the Frog Lube would be excellent for applying to internal areas of the gun when cleaning where you want specific areas treated, while the One Shot dry lub would be a good exterior spray on treatment. Would you agree?
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Old May 17, 2014, 08:48 PM   #46
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I think both would work great in either application.
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Old May 17, 2014, 08:49 PM   #47
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Its been 20 days since I started board #3 which is the indoor board with the (hotdog) fingerprint.



The first (and only) sample so far to exhibit corrosion has appeared. The rust is only in the fingerprint area. The sample plate is the one coated with Eezox.



For all the positive comments about Eezox, it has been a complete disappointment.
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Old May 17, 2014, 09:35 PM   #48
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Thank you so much for the amazing report.
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Old May 18, 2014, 07:57 AM   #49
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I agree. Probably the most intensive study and nicest work I have seen in a long while. My compliments to your methods and work!
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Old May 19, 2014, 05:31 AM   #50
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Update on the two outdoors corrosion boards. Hornady One shot has finally failed on Board #2 Leaving Frog Lube and WD 40 Specialist but the Hornady product is still going strong on board #1.



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