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Old February 8, 2014, 12:41 PM   #1
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Just picked up the 1866 Winchester from Uberti

This rifle originated with one of our forum members who was willing to part with it.





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Old February 8, 2014, 12:44 PM   #2
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And a coupla shots of the port side







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Old February 8, 2014, 12:48 PM   #3
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Man, that's a very nice rifle. Let us know how it shoots.
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Old February 8, 2014, 12:59 PM   #4
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Got a mold for a 200 gr RNFP

and the dies from Lee on order.

Also bought a four place turret so as to permit me to easily swap from one caliber to another.
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Old February 8, 2014, 01:28 PM   #5
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Thanks NSB...

It is smooth too.
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Old February 8, 2014, 02:08 PM   #6
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No sooner I hit the send key on the Mold and Dies post...

...What happens?

Mailman comes up with a box from Titan with all that stuff plus my copy of Modern reloading, Richard Lee.

Lemme tell you all about Titan Reloading.

I know that everyone has their favorite go-to place for stuff and normally folks don't like it when someone tries to convince them of sumpin.

But I just have to do a shout out to Titan. Their prices are real good. Their shipping is far from outrageous. And I swear I got these items two days after I ordered them. Just plain outstanding!

If you like Lee stuff, this is (IMO) the place to go.
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Old February 8, 2014, 03:19 PM   #7
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What caliber?

P.S. There are a couple of extra screws next to the hammer screw on the left side. Not usually there. I wonder if it used to have a saddle ring on it?

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Old February 8, 2014, 03:37 PM   #8
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P.S. There are a couple of extra screws next to the hammer screw on the left side. Not usually there. I wonder if it used to have a saddle ring on it?
Yeah, that looks kind of odd on a short rifle. Nice looking gun....OOPS... rifle tho. Sorry Doc, forgot you enlisted all of us in the navy
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Old February 8, 2014, 05:01 PM   #9
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Nice, I bet you'll like it. I have the round barrel carbine in 44-40 and love it. I'd have preferred a full length rifle but got it in a trade that couldn't be passed up.

One of my favorite things is the jingle of empty brass as the action is worked.
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Old February 9, 2014, 05:51 AM   #10
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Caliber is .44-40.

Might be right about the saddle ring.

This is a Sporting Rifle. I may have said Short Rifle originally but it has a 24 inch octagon barrel.

Makes it a Sporting Rifle....and the upper tang is marked Sporting Rifle.
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Old February 9, 2014, 06:13 AM   #11
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Just checked

Parts to put a saddle ring on it total 25.00 from VTI.

I prolly won't do it.
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Old February 9, 2014, 10:49 AM   #12
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Just took it apart....

and took some very fine steel wool to the brass parts and the wood.

Followed up with Never Dull for the brass and teak oil on the wood.

As this rifle was already very well cared for, it did not make much of a difference.

The more I handle it, the more I like it.

Priced a short stroke kit and at 160.00 for the amount and manner in which I shoot, it ain't worth it.

To the member who sold it to me, I am very pleased and I leave it to you to identify yourself.
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Old February 9, 2014, 01:52 PM   #13
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You didn't say it was a short rifle Doc. I just presumed it was because of the short barrel and no barrel band. Personally I don't like short throw levers.
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Old February 9, 2014, 01:55 PM   #14
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Cheater levers don't seem to feel right to me.

It is highly likely that 66 is a somewhat earlier one- possibly 1960's or 1970's.
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Old February 9, 2014, 02:01 PM   #15
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Cheater levers don't seem to feel right to me.
A buddy of mine had a Browning BLR. I have never had more displeasure from shooting a lever action than I had with shooting that thing.
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Old February 9, 2014, 03:43 PM   #16
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To the member who sold it to me, I am very pleased and I leave it to you to identify yourself.
I'm glad you're happy with it, Doc.

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It is smooth too.
You're welcome. It didn't used to be. I pulled it apart when I first bought it and smoothed the innards. I also replaced the original main spring with one from VTI. The original spring was twice as thick as the one from VTI and dang was it stiff.
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Old February 9, 2014, 05:28 PM   #17
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Doc,
Beautiful rifle. I hope you enjoy it!

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Old February 9, 2014, 06:36 PM   #18
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Doc- nice rifle! And I will 2nd your opinion of Titan, as new reloader Titan has done me well and I would tell anyone to purchase from them.
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Old February 9, 2014, 07:04 PM   #19
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Beautiful rifle Doc!

You are the one who put me on to Titan . . and I agree with you 100%! Great folks to deal with.

You are going to like that 4 hole turret - I de-prime and size on an older RCBS Jr 3 = prime my brass with the new Lee ergo hand primer - then load on my 4 hole turret. I love it and plan on buying another one to put out here in AZ so my loading set-up is the same as the one I have back in MI. I love the ability to leave the dies set up on the turret plate and then just switch out the plate for next caliber. Mine is a real pleasure to use!

Let us know how the new rifle shoots!
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Old February 9, 2014, 07:34 PM   #20
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The first thing I did to my press was to change it from three holes to four. Very cheap to do with Lee multistage press. only about 17.00 in parts. I did not include the progressive press option. I am not there yet.

Then I set up a turret plate for each of the calibers I reload.

This means I don't have to set up the dies each time I change calibers.

I check the first coupla rounds and generally don't have to make a bunch of changes.

Now I am in the market for .44-40 brass.
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http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/1172/1
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Old February 9, 2014, 07:53 PM   #22
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Or http://www.midwayusa.com/product/941...rass-44-40-wcf
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Old February 9, 2014, 08:08 PM   #23
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These are both good prices.

About a quarter apiece.

There are vendors on GB.com who are asking half again as much. The sad thing is that folks will likely buy it for that price.

"A fool and his money....."
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Old February 9, 2014, 08:34 PM   #24
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I used to favor Winchester brand 44-40 because it has the thinnest brass at the neck of any. Only about .007 thick. This allows leeway if one has to use 'large diameter' bullets in the order of .429 or .430 because of groove diameter. I would pick up a bag or two at gunshows whenever I ran across it. But it got hard to find Winchester, so these days when I run low I just order direct from Starline. They have 44-40 in stock right now.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/order-...oy-vintage.cfm

44-40 ain't cheap. It usually runs a little bit more than 45 Colt. Starline does not always have it in stock, so it's best to jump on it when it is in stock.
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Old February 9, 2014, 09:21 PM   #25
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One way I build my stocks of brass is to get reloads at gun shows. There is a guy (Mac's Reloads) who almost always shows up at the shows here in Hampton Roads.

He does a great job with his loads. Good consistency and especially in COL.

I pick up fifty or a hundred rounds at each show, and before long I have the brass I feel I need to remain comfortable.

Up to now, I have not loaded anything as peculiar as .44-40. I may find that my Mac's Reloads technique no longer works because of the case thickness issue and the fact that I can't be certain what brass I will be getting.

He generally separates his brass such that a given box will only have brass with one headstamp. And a lot of his rounds are made with Starline brass.
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