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Old February 3, 2014, 12:34 PM   #26
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Some strange firearms I've handled or have:

COP .357 (have)
Borchardt C-93 (handled)
Gwinn Arm Pistol (have)
Mateba semi-auto revolver (handled)
HAC-7 (have) .308 proprietary rifle made in the '80's that looks like the offspring of a FAL and and AR10.
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Old February 3, 2014, 02:27 PM   #27
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I've got a custom one. 11" barrel, 30.25" OAL, 3 shot single stack mag. Fires .410, .45LC, .454 Casull .45 Schofield. Will chamber .460 Roland but I'm not trying that purely due to chamber pressures.
Hey...

If you actually run .454 Casull in that thing, .460 Rowland is a downgrade. Rowland runs at a lower peak pressure.
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Old February 3, 2014, 02:59 PM   #28
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I own a Boberg XR9-S whos magazine is loaded from the back, projectile first, and the pistol pulls the cartridge from the back of the mag, lifts it up and shoves it into the chamber.

I also own a Chiappa Rhino. 357.

I used to own a .25ACP folding pen gun.
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Old February 3, 2014, 03:55 PM   #29
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Some old british breech lock blackpowder gun with carrot-sized cartridges. Henry something.
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Old February 3, 2014, 07:52 PM   #30
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Old February 4, 2014, 07:55 AM   #31
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OK. One case .45 ACP, one 1911A1, and one "grease gun". Shot the whole case.
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Old February 4, 2014, 07:50 PM   #32
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Some old british breech lock blackpowder gun with carrot-sized cartridges. Henry something.
Martini-Henry?
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Old February 5, 2014, 07:50 PM   #33
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I've got a custom one. 11" barrel, 30.25" OAL, 3 shot single stack mag. Fires .410, .45LC, .454 Casull .45 Schofield. Will chamber .460 Roland but I'm not trying that purely due to chamber pressures.
Hey...

If you actually run .454 Casull in that thing, .460 Rowland is a downgrade. Rowland runs at a lower peak pressure.
Sorry Sevens I meant .460 S&W not Roland. But when I figure out my shell holder bolt, it will fire Roland. I do use .454 through it but when I'm using that it is chambered in $5 notes!
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Old February 5, 2014, 08:43 PM   #34
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I own a Boberg XR9-S whos magazine is loaded from the back, projectile first, and the pistol pulls the cartridge from the back of the mag, lifts it up and shoves it into the chamber.
Just watched a video on this pistol. Seems like most of the odd ones are older designs when they were still trying to figure everything out. For a modern piece, that is truly a strange one there.
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Old February 6, 2014, 09:35 AM   #35
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I have to agree that for a modern gun, the Boberg XR9-S wins "strangest gun". You can take it apart and spend a good amount of time just trying to figure out what each part does. Besides the way cartridges are pulled from the magazine and then inserted into the chamber, there are a couple other oddities about this gun:

1. The "hammer" is a square steel "flap" that fits flush with the pistol;
2. The recoil spring is offset to the side and runs about the full length of the slide;
3. Boberg has videos of how the gun will still function properly with the recoil spring/guiderod removed.
4. If you don't use the right ammo, the bullet can actually separate from the casing upon being pulled from the magazine.
5. Some parts serve dual purposes - I'm still trying to figure out what each part does.
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Old February 6, 2014, 11:17 AM   #36
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Just watched a video on [the Boberg]. Seems like most of the odd ones are older designs when they were still trying to figure everything out. For a modern piece, that is truly a strange one there.
FWIW it's not entirely new; the Boberg's basic feed system- with the cartridges being yanked out of the rear of the magazine by "tongs", then fed forwards- is conceptually based on the Mars (or Webley-Mars) pistol, which was designed around the end of the 19th century by a Brit named Hugh Gabbet-Fairfax.

However, the Boberg fixes the Mars' primary design flaw- an ejection system that often required partial disassembly of the weapon to clear an FTE.
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Old February 6, 2014, 12:03 PM   #37
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I would be surprised if Boberg's design was actually based on the Mars pistol. Only 80 Mars pistols were ever made and Boberg's design is quite different from what little I can tell.
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Old February 6, 2014, 01:51 PM   #38
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I would be surprised if Boberg's design was actually based on the Mars pistol. Only 80 Mars pistols were ever made and Boberg's design is quite different from what little I can tell.
I wrote "conceptually based"- like how a Glock is conceptually based on a 1911.

The "backwards" feed system using "tongs" or "fingers" is about where the similarities between the Boberg and Mars begin and end- but IMHO this one similarity is significant, as it's a departure from virtually every other semi-auto pistol design.
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Old February 6, 2014, 03:19 PM   #39
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I actually looked for (and found) a diagram of the Mars - neat gun, I wish that more than 80 were made, because I'd like to have one.
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Old February 6, 2014, 04:06 PM   #40
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Old February 11, 2014, 05:15 PM   #41
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I wouldn't call them "strange", but I enjoyed shooting original cavalry carbine models of the trapdoor Springfield and the Remington rolling block.
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Old February 11, 2014, 05:25 PM   #42
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It's a toss up, the Sterling 9mm SMG in Canada and a suppressed MAC-10 in 45ACP in Tucson. Both of course were full auto although I spent most of my time with the MAC-10 squeezing off single shots trying to hit a brick at about 20 yards, tough at first but I think with practice a guy could get it down pretty good.
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Old February 12, 2014, 09:15 AM   #43
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I've handled (fondled?) a late WW1 Mauser 20 mm anti-tank rifle as well as a WWII German quad 20 mm anti-aircraft platform.

The strangest I've fired was an H&K P7 squeeze cocker. Not exactly a rare bird but still odd.
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Old February 12, 2014, 07:05 PM   #44
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COP .357 - I've never fired it, as it appears to be NIB.

WWII Liberator pistol - Appeared to have been fired when I acquired it, so I've put six rounds of reduced load, lightweight lead bullet reloads through it.
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Old February 12, 2014, 07:11 PM   #45
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I have fired all of these using very low pressure .22 CB caps
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Old February 12, 2014, 09:12 PM   #46
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Old February 12, 2014, 10:28 PM   #47
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Does a XM307 count? How about an XM312??? We had the conversion kit too.

If not, how about a full on Land Warrior System M16 circa 1993?

No????

Then it would have to be one of several FN platforms (several were prototypes) that were brought in to see if Land Warrior could be integrated with.

Almost forgot the OG Armalite AR-10 with the charging bar located in the carry handle.
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Old February 14, 2014, 01:17 AM   #48
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Probably an hk p7 squeeze cocker.. Nice gun, good trigger, very well made.these things are going for over 2k on gunbroker. Crazy. Not sure why they don't make them anymore.

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Old February 15, 2014, 10:50 AM   #49
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Rising M55 SMG with the folding stock.
Had the oddest fitting pistol grip to the hand that was all wood.
The metal stock looked link a coat hanger and wasn’t much stronger.
By far the dumbest loading lever every placed on a gun. In a grove in the stock under the barrel.
WAY to fast of a cycle rate.
And fun as heck, 100 rounds
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Old February 15, 2014, 10:59 AM   #50
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My dad had an old pinfire revolver, French or Belgian probably, with a large knife blade protruding under the barrel. Pictures of them are pretty common, but I've never seen another one in the flesh.
The strangest gun I've shot was a H&K .308 rifle, the semi-auto version of the G3, shortened into a MP5-sized pistol. One of those fun-to-shoot, but what's-it-for deals.
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