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Old January 3, 2014, 08:03 PM   #1
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Walther P99as discontinued?

Has this been discontinued? I think I would prefer this model to the PPQ because of the decocker, but I am not finding it in stock at many places.
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Old January 3, 2014, 09:09 PM   #2
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They're not discontinued, as far as I know. Lots of international police prefer DA/SA, so they go with the P99AS.
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Old January 3, 2014, 09:35 PM   #3
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http://grabagun.com/walther-p99as-9mm-4-bl-2-15rd.html

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Old January 3, 2014, 09:55 PM   #4
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Does anyone have experience with both the P99 vs the PPQ? I'm interested in both but realistically, only gonna buy one. Maybe wait for the paddle release to come back out
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Old January 3, 2014, 10:20 PM   #5
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Does anyone have experience with both the P99 vs the PPQ? I'm interested in both but realistically, only gonna buy one. Maybe wait for the paddle release to come back out
I've fired both, and owned a PPQ. The PPQ (paddle) is my favorite pistol on the market. The P99AS has an even better pull in SA, but I prefer constant pull vs DA/SA. They are both outstanding... in 9mm. Go with the action you prefer.
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Old January 4, 2014, 01:11 AM   #6
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I have owned both, I didn't like the AS trigger. In the long light DA mode I could feel the trigger passing the short SA spot with a click, and it messed me up. I sold my AS, I still own my M1 PPQ.
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Old January 4, 2014, 01:12 AM   #7
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Glad to hear the P99AS isn't discontinued, it's easily my favorite Walther and a mainstay on my long-term wishlist.
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Old January 4, 2014, 01:20 AM   #8
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Strange...

A local pawn-gun shop near me had a large # of Walther & SW99 pistols.
Both used & new models. I like the PPQ model. The larger "target" series would be worth it for the collectors or gun owners who want big sidearms .

I never fired any P99s but they were well respected in the 2000s.

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Old January 4, 2014, 05:22 AM   #9
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Does anyone have experience with both the P99 vs the PPQ?
I own an M1 PPQ Navy and a P99AS compact. I'd say the PPQ has a slightly crisper trigger in my opinion. Both are quite accurate. Maybe I'll take them both out to the range for a head to head though it's not entirely apples to apples as one is a compact.

I would base a decision on whether you want true DA/SA or uniform trigger pull.
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Old January 4, 2014, 05:36 AM   #10
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This Walther forum shows used ones from time to time.

http://www.waltherforums.com/forum/t...p99as-9mm.html
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Old January 4, 2014, 11:01 AM   #11
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Due to two issues, the P99 hasn't sold well. The issues include misunderstanding of the AS trigger and poor advertising/support by Walther. The AS trigger is exactly like a Sig SA/DA trigger or Beretta trigger...just striker fired.

The P99AS and DOA are both being made. They are carried by lots of European police. While in Poland and France this year, I saw many (Poland was exclusively Walther P99's.
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Old January 4, 2014, 11:26 AM   #12
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As kcub mentioned sign up for notification from Grabagun and Buds.

Grabagun had a bunch of the P99 AS just before Christmas as a featured item. They will be getting more in. They have the P99C in stock right now.
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Old January 4, 2014, 11:29 AM   #13
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and poor advertising/support by Walther
Yes and no. Remember that until very recently the importation of Walther pistols was through S&W. If anything it was S&W that did nothing to promote any of the Walther pistols. With Walther now having its own US importation I imagine that will change.
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Old January 4, 2014, 12:12 PM   #14
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it was S&W that did nothing to promote any of the Walther pistols

It was like Chevy having Ford distribute their cars. Sure they will. With exclusive rights so nobody else could sell them and give competition to their own models.
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Old January 4, 2014, 05:06 PM   #15
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Product placement....

007(Pierce Brosnan) had a Walther P99 9x19mm in a few 1990s Bond films.
See www.imfdb.org .
I do agree though, the P99 wasn't hyped like a Beretta 92F series(M9) or a Glock 17 or the SIG P226/P229.
I knew a PI that had a P99 9mm in the early 2000s. He liked the pistol & used Federal Hydra-Shok JHPs.

I'd buy a new PPQ m2 pistol but I'm not really into the older SW99s or P99s.
I'd add that a few SWAT & special units in Canada also issued Walther P99 sidearms for a long time.
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Old January 4, 2014, 08:25 PM   #16
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I was a P99 fanatic a few years ago. I got back into them and bought a new P99 A/S in November. Then, I got a PPQ last month.

Here was a short shooting report I posted on another forum...


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Ok - I got to the range finally and put 160 rounds thru it...

Gun is accurate - Pretty good on double taps, and I did some 15 yard shooting and some 1 handed shooting.

I will say that I do prefer the P99 A/S to the PPQ. I just like it better - I guess because of the trigger. The PPQ is more "glockish." I'd also have to shoot them back to back, but the PPQ may have a tiny bit more snap to it. I'm working off memory, though,..

I did buy the gun as a range toy, knowing that I likely wouldn't carry it because it isn't DA/SA. I do occasionally carry my P99 now.

I did also rent the Sig 229 - because I have been considering saving up for a Sig M11A1 (it is essentially the same gun) in the next year. I've decided that while the recoil is pretty low, and it is DA/SA - gun just doesn't do it for me. But hey - renting it is gonna save me close to $900 now

So far, nothing still beats my Beretta 92s for my favorite platform. Walther P99 is second. While it would be nice to still own all the guns I have sold in years past to buy the next gun I wanted at the time - I think I've wound my way thru most everything by now.

I know I have stated before that I am taking a new gun hiatus, but I am gonna attempt it again. AT THE MOMENT, there is nothing else I wanna buy...

So, the almost $200 I have on the side that I was saving towards that new Sig can now be saved for something else... After I figure out what
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Old January 4, 2014, 11:47 PM   #17
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Glad to hear the P99AS isn't discontinued, it's easily my favorite Walther and a mainstay on my long-term wishlist.
Walther has stated repeatedly that they have no intention to discontinue the P99AS in the foreseeable future.

I wouldn't be surprised though, if they decided to "uglify" it similar to the PPQ and Euro-only P99Q and P99RAD, or even add the PPQ M2's inferior mag release design.

Lets hope they don't do any of those things, though.
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Old January 5, 2014, 09:58 AM   #18
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They sell out what they sporadically distribute now in this country. It's a main staple of what to sell to European agencies though that may change to the PPQ.

One thing different about this DA/SA design is that you can't thumb cock the hammer for a precise single action first shot. For that reason I prefer HK or Sig in a DA/SA pistol. I know about the liability aspect but for saving my personal hide, I'll worry about the immediate threat first without being hamstrung and the legal extortionists second. (judged by 12 vs. carried by 6 part deaux)
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Old January 5, 2014, 10:46 AM   #19
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Love the comment on how old the P99 is compared to the PPQ.

Somewhat true, but the P99RAD came out in 2008 and is the carbon copy of the American PPQ (but missing the safety dangle).

The PPQ is the same build as the P99, just different trigger.
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Old January 5, 2014, 11:19 AM   #20
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Long-slide?.....

I'd be interested in the newer long slide version of the Walther PPQ but I only see the item on Walther's US website. No gun shops or retail websites.
Strange.
They never made a public version of the P99 series with a extended slide or target size.
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Old January 5, 2014, 11:26 AM   #21
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Some guys at the Walther forum already have the long slide gun. Very few have popped up online and sold out almost immediately. But, they are officially out.
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Old January 5, 2014, 11:31 AM   #22
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Not a longslide but the Navy PPQ has a tactical long threaded barrel.
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Old January 5, 2014, 12:29 PM   #23
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It will be very interesting to see if the P99's grip becomes the PPQ's.

I asked the Walther rep on the walther forum and he said no (twice).

I have my doubts about that being true though.
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Old January 5, 2014, 04:52 PM   #24
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Somewhat true, but the P99RAD came out in 2008 and is the carbon copy of the American PPQ (but missing the safety dangle).
This is not accurate.

The P99RAD has a different trigger action than the PPQ. The slide, barrel, and frame are similar, but it isn't a carbon copy. Walther didn't make a SAO polymer pistol before the PPQ.
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Old January 5, 2014, 06:14 PM   #25
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Out of stock but here it was. 5" barrel

http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsupersto...852/c/firearms
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