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Old December 30, 2013, 08:45 PM   #1
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Excellent pistols that shoot .40 s@w?

Which .40 s@w shooting pistols would you recommend?
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Old December 30, 2013, 08:49 PM   #2
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Recommend for what purpose? Competition? Range use? Home defense? Concealed carry? Pocket carry? Car carry?
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Old December 30, 2013, 08:51 PM   #3
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for Range use/Home defense
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Old December 30, 2013, 08:55 PM   #4
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This is my entirely subjective and opinionated list of full-size home defense/range use firearms designed for the .40 S&W that handle it very well. It's my favorite cartridge and I've shot it a lot in a lot of handguns.

Sig Sauer P229
Beretta PX4 Storm
Smith & Wesson M&P 40
Heckler & Kock USP and P2000
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:01 PM   #5
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Define "excellent".

Do you have any preference of trigger type, frame material, price range, or...?
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:03 PM   #6
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The SIG P229. I own a couple of them - awsome pistols.

Often there are great deals on police trade ins or CPOs.

http://summitgunbroker.com/229-sa-da.html

http://summitgunbroker.com/229-40cal.html
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:07 PM   #7
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If concealed carry is never an option I'd say go with the biggest gun you can comfortable hold and shoot. You didn't specify your level of experience, so I'm going to assume it's low. And for that I'd recommend a striker-fired gun because the trigger pull is consistent. There's nothing wrong with a DA/SA gun but the transition from DA to SA is very important, and that's something that very few DA/SA owners actually practice when at the range. If you're actually willing to go the range and practice the DA to SA transition on a regular basis, then a DA/SA gun is fine. But way too many people rarely (or never) do.

I'd recommend a Glock 22, a Springfield XD or XDm, a Walther PPQ, or a S&W M&P. All are very good striker-fired guns that are very easy to learn to shoot well. They also have no safety, which simplifies the process and, in my experience, can sometimes encourage a newer shooter to pick up safe gun handling skills more quickly because they know they can't rely on a safety to make the gun safe. That said, if you have a tendency to keep your finger on the trigger when you're not aimed in and ready to shoot you might need a safety. (Wait, scratch that; if you have a tendency to keep your finger on the trigger when you're not aimed in and ready to shoot then you either need more training or you need to not be a gun owner.)
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:13 PM   #8
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Glock 23 for a great all around, useful .40. The smaller size makes concealed carry a breeze.

Glock 22 if size isn't a concern.
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:21 PM   #9
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Well after reading other posters comments about glocks in .40 s@w, I am disregarding glocks in that caliber.
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:26 PM   #10
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Well after reading other posters comments about glocks in .40 s@w going kaboom and their explanations why that happens, I am disregarding glocks in that caliber.
First, that was a much bigger problem with the older Glocks; and second, every time I've ever heard of that happening it was with hand-loaded ammo. Glocks have loose chambers that contribute to their legendary reliability; don't shoot bad or over-powered handloads in them and you'll be fine.

Besides, the Glock 22 is by far the most common police sidearm in the country and it has been for a while now. If kabooms were actually a real problem with them I doubt that gun would still be as popular with law enforcement as it is.
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:30 PM   #11
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My G35 will hold 1.5" groups @ 25yrds. Other then 1911s not too many pistols are that good.
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:39 PM   #12
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Why the 40? It was a compromise round developed after the FBI shootout and 10 mm dance.

Folks are moving either down to the 9mm or up to the 45. With guns developed specifically for that round, there are many 'excellent' choices.

You do have to be professional to shoot the 40 well.

Having had a Glock in 40, sold it and now 9s and 45s - I wouldn't bother - ducking for cover - here.
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Old December 30, 2013, 09:57 PM   #13
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I'm going to be another vote for the Sig 229
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Old December 30, 2013, 10:05 PM   #14
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Old December 30, 2013, 10:14 PM   #15
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Where might the Berretta 96 series fall in this investigation?
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Old December 30, 2013, 10:19 PM   #16
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Why the 40?
I agree with Glenn, but I didn't want to get accused of starting a caliber war. But now that a mod has chimed in, I guess I can too .

Many shooters, especially newer ones, find themselves less effective with a .40 than with a 9mm due to the increased recoil. Even expert-level shooters can never shoot a .40 quite as fast as they can a 9mm and still be as accurate. But with newer shooters it can be even a bigger difference due to a greater tendency to develop a flinch.

And considering 9mm is cheaper than .40, you can practice more often. And because there is virtually no difference between a 9mm and .40 in terms of actual real-life effectiveness on the human body, all that matters is which one you're better and more experienced with.
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Old December 30, 2013, 10:20 PM   #17
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I will throw in a vote for the sig p229. Mine has been incredibly reliable with both factory rounds and reloads.
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Old December 30, 2013, 10:36 PM   #18
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Well, since a mod and another member said it I will too...Why the .40?

Personally I own 9mm and .45acp semi-auto pistols and of the 2 I believe that the .45acp has less felt recoil because of the subsonic round. At the very least to me it is more of a push than the crack of the 9mm.

The only advantage I would see to the .40 is that most often I still saw that on the shelf when there was no 9mm or.45acp. But that problem seems to belessening and I am having few problems finding either 9mm or .45acp.

Have fun whatever you decide.
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:18 AM   #19
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Folks are moving either down to the 9mm or up to the 45.
In my neck of the woods .40 is still extremely popular, and as far as I know it's still the most-used LE cartridge. It's certainly the most plentiful pistol brass at my local outdoor range. It's not going away any time soon, no matter how much the online community wishes it would. While I've been reading talk about LE switching back to 9 and .45 on forums for years, I've only seen isolated departmental switches, such as the recent one in St. Louis. As of yet I haven't seen evidence of a systematic trend away from .40 S&W.

I also disagree that it's difficult to shoot well, it's just snappy in some platforms. Much to my surprise, after a number of range trips I still shoot my PX4 .40 faster and more accurately than my 92FS and the felt recoil is nearly identical, despite tons of talk of the 92FS being a creampuff recoiler. Although I of course agree that in identical platforms it recoils harder, with the exception of +p+ 9mm, which in my experience recoils harder than 180-grain .40 S&W.

I do wish so many threads mentioning .40 pistols didn't turn into a referendum on .40 as a caliber.

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Old December 31, 2013, 12:23 AM   #20
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P229 if you have no budget, but if you are on a budget and want a killer firearm look no further than the Ruger SR
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:23 AM   #21
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-1 for the glock, i personally have a tough time with it at any considerable distance, in 40 anyways, and im not a Glock-Hater
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:26 AM   #22
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Ah, caliber wars.

The secret I just discovered: They key to all of this chatter is the platform. The whole package...the gun and the round, not just one or the other. Both. Together. I'd posit nearly any round will be comfortable in the right platform.

To answer the OP's question: Sig P229, without question or reservation. A thing of beauty, and just about the only .40 I enjoy shooting.
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:30 AM   #23
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.40 guns are often either poorly designed or difficult to shoot well. The USP40F is an exception to both. I don't think anyone before or since put that amount of R&D into a .40 pistol. And they are now common on the discount trade-in market.
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:50 AM   #24
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While I also tend to use the 9mm as my primary round I have been very happy with my HK USP40. It’s been very reliable, accurate and handles the recoil very nicely.
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Old December 31, 2013, 01:25 AM   #25
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Well after reading other posters comments about glocks in .40 s@w, I am disregarding glocks in that caliber.

I have a Glock27 in 40S&W. No problems shoots great. The reason I am considering a Ruger SR40c is I have a RugerSR9C that I love. I have started to reload and the Glocks have what is called an unsupported chamber that cause the bullet cases to bulge. This is really only a problem if you reload.
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