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Old January 8, 2014, 05:19 PM   #51
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Back to the thread where were you aiming on the deer? A liver shot is not far from a gut shot.Now away from the thread shooting a deer between the eyes with a .22 won't kill it (not right away anyhow)anybody who has butchered any livestock knows between the eyes is too low.Go get one of your european mounts and hold it like a deer holds it heads and tell me where a shot between the eyes goes it not into the brain.
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Old January 8, 2014, 11:27 PM   #52
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I agree. In the past when I butchered cows we would shoot them right where the hair on there forehead made a spiral. We would use a 22 short on them. Took them down every time.
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Old January 9, 2014, 08:12 AM   #53
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More deer are taken, (er rather poached) with a .22lr than just about any other round
How do we know this?
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Old January 9, 2014, 11:34 AM   #54
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More deer are taken, (er rather poached) with a .22lr than just about any other round
How do we know this?
Maybe the author of the post is just telling us his kill ratio, eh? Otherwise, since hunting deer with a .22LR is illegal in the majority of states where deer hunting is allowed, he is trying to tell us that poachers take more deer than legal hunters. Whadda you think?
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Old January 9, 2014, 01:03 PM   #55
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I had a house adjacent to the Stanislaus National forest. Come hunting season all the deer would be in my neighborhood. You could sometimes hear a .22 go off, and you just knew someone was filling a freezer. All the Elmer Fudds would be in the forest.

Personally I am too lazy to hunt, and If deer tasted better than cow, we would be raising deer instead of cow.
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Old January 14, 2014, 03:10 AM   #56
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You must not be eating the right deer, cause I find mine taste much better than cow.

+1 for the 125 grn 357 on deer. I've been shooting them for years in my Marlin lever carbine and within a hundred yards the deer might as well skin themselves cause they're going in the freezer. Probably killed a dozen deer with it in the last ten years and only had one go further than 30 yards, and it left behind a blood trail that looked like it was put down with a 5 gallon bucket so it wasn't so difficult to track. Hell, until I read this post I had no idea that my bullets weren't as good as the heavier slower bullets
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Old January 14, 2014, 10:06 AM   #57
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Hell, until I read this post I had no idea that my bullets weren't as good as the heavier slower bullets
Goes to show you what a great source of information the internet is. Hell, till I read posts like these, I had no idea I was one of only a handfull of folks in the world that ever had to trail a deer more than 30 yards.
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Old January 16, 2014, 12:54 AM   #58
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I didn't mean that I have never trailed any deer further than 30 yards, just the ones I've used the 357 on, and that may be a hyperbole, but if it is its not by much. It probably has more to do with shot placement than the bullet itself doing anything magical, I'm just saying I've never had any reason to believe that that particular load was in any way inadequate for deer sized game.
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Old January 16, 2014, 01:46 AM   #59
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Nice kill.
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Old January 16, 2014, 12:03 PM   #60
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I'm just saying I've never had any reason to believe that that particular load was in any way inadequate for deer sized game.
Nobody here has said anything about it being inadequate. The debate is only if it is the best choice over other options out there. Most 125 gr JHP bullets meant for .357 are for SD/HD use and not large game. They are also designed to expand at velocities much lower than what is produced in carbines. If they work for you, great...... but they are not what I would recommend first when asked for a .357 hunting bullet. There are just too many better options out there
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Old January 16, 2014, 12:30 PM   #61
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Maybe it's an optical illusion, but that looks like a very small deer. Don't get me wrong, that is the best eatin', but I think that thing is not topping 70 lbs dressed.

I do not doubt a 125gr XTP launched at over 2200f/sec passed all the way through that.

If the animal in question weighed 220 pounds live weight, the results might very well have been different ...... and there are darn few hunters that could pass up a shot at the buck of a lifetime because they did not bring enough gun.
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