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Old January 1, 2014, 01:31 AM   #26
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It's been so long since I fired a DA revolver single action I honestly can't remember it. DA is the only way I shoot revolvers. I sold my last SA revolver a number of years ago and that was after I hadn't shot it for a couple of years.

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Old January 1, 2014, 01:35 AM   #27
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I do not care how smooth a DA pull you have SA is better for accuracy, particularly at longer distances
Speak for yourself...

My most accurate shooting is done D/A weak hand @ any range.
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Old January 1, 2014, 02:04 AM   #28
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90% double action.
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Old January 1, 2014, 11:35 AM   #29
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All my revolvers have to be double action. None have a spur on the hammer because either I removed them or as my 469 came with a shrouded hammer that never gets used.
The only exception is my Python, I just refuse to molest that revolver in any way and that hammer is not cocked for single action while using it in ICORE matches.
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Old January 1, 2014, 11:38 AM   #30
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Each to there own. All my revolvers have to to be Single Action. Well, except one because of the size (CA Bulldog). Shoot it only in single action mode too. Not a Smith to be found around here.
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Old January 1, 2014, 12:10 PM   #31
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Not a Smith to be found around here.
With some patients bobbing hammers is not all that difficult.
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Old January 1, 2014, 08:30 PM   #32
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Speak for yourself...

My most accurate shooting is done D/A weak hand @ any range.
At any range and weak hand? Not buying it (unless you are joking, then OK).
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Old January 1, 2014, 10:21 PM   #33
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At any range and weak hand? Not buying it
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That's your prerogative.
It really makes zip difference to me if you buy it or not & I'm not saying it holds true for everyone.
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Old January 2, 2014, 07:50 AM   #34
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At any range and weak hand? Not buying it
One really shoots with their mind and eyes, much less with their hand. If your "weak" hand is your dominant hand, the task is just a little easier.

Strong hand only (upper right), and weak hand only (upper left):
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Old January 2, 2014, 12:05 PM   #35
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One really shoots with their mind and eyes, much less with their hand. If your "weak" hand is your dominant hand, the task is just a little easier.
That is nice shooting. Depending on the range, very nice.

Can you do that DA "at any range"?
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Old January 2, 2014, 01:46 PM   #36
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DA at any range isnt really an issue, and with some guns its actually easier.

Shooting my 4" S&W Mod. 29 with heavy loads "at any range" improved greatly when I shot it DAO. With some guns, knowing when that round is going to go off, is actually a hindrance, and you tend to start losing focus where its more important.

Ive found all my "group" shooting is usually better when I shoot DAO, than if I shoot SA. Shooting DAO forces you to focus on the sights and worry less about the trigger, which really helps, when shooting heavy recoiling guns.

Shooting DAO also improves your other shooing, as again, you worry less about the trigger, and focus more on the sights and/or target.

I think most of the resistance to DAO shooting, comes from those who arent used to shooting that way, and are coming from a SA mentality and trigger familiarity. With a little practice, and as with anything else, a lot of dry firing, I think youll start to see the perceived bad things start to fade away, and your DAO groups start to shrink, even to the point they surpass your SA groups, and you will see an general improvement in all your shooting overall.
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Old January 2, 2014, 02:10 PM   #37
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Can you do that DA "at any range"?
If you're asking whether I can shoot the same sized groups with my weak hand, I'm generally as accurate (but not as fast) with my weak hand, DA or SA, up to the distance I've actually tried shooting WHO for accuracy ('bout 25 yards). It's do-able.
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Old January 3, 2014, 08:43 AM   #38
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DA or SA?? It depends.

I handgun hunt with a 480 Ruger Super RedHawk. I shoot a lot of Paper, Steel, Clay Birds, Rocks, etc with it practicing for deer season. It is set up with a 30mm UltraDot optical sight.
I shoot it almost 100% Single Action.

I also shoot ICORE, Defensive Pistol, and Reactive Steel Challenge Matches. I probably average 300 - 400 rounds a month shooting matches. I shoot them 100% Double Action.

To get good with a DA revolver requires trigger time. For me shooting matches is the excuse I need to get in my trigger time. I am busy as a One Armed Wall Paper Hanger. Shooting matchs is my practice.

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Old January 3, 2014, 07:22 PM   #39
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If dem DA/SA revolvers were supposed to bee's shot in SA we would all be ownin Colt SA. Day invented dat DA /SA for a reason, so you don'ts got to cock da hammer to make it go bang!!!!! Just yank on da trigger
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Old January 3, 2014, 08:46 PM   #40
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If DA revolvers were only meant to be used DAO then why have the SA action at all? All the BS is just that, BS. Use your gun as you see fit and don't let all the internet chatter get to you.
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Old January 3, 2014, 08:51 PM   #41
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I do practice in double action but my preferred method of shooting is always single action. You knew that.
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Old January 3, 2014, 09:44 PM   #42
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My double actions are fired double action 99% of the time. It's rare that I take a single action shot with them.

My single actions are fired single action 100% of the time
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Old January 6, 2014, 08:04 PM   #43
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I use single action most of the time (95%) with my double actions. After reading this thread though, and seeing targets posted, I'm going to try double action only for a while.
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Old January 8, 2014, 05:14 PM   #44
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I shoot my DA revolvers DA, except when chronographing.

Yes, even my Redhawks.....

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Old January 8, 2014, 07:57 PM   #45
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I shoot 99% double action with revolvers, IDPA and practice and for fun. Paper targets, clay birds and such. If you haven't tried it you need to. I have a few tuned guns that are easy to shoot but I also have s couple stock ones that I shoot DA. It's easier with a light trigger pull but doable with a stock gun.
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Old January 8, 2014, 10:29 PM   #46
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With my carry gun, a Smith M60, it's double action only unless I'm working up a load for it...same's true for my wife's M637, double action only, and from the holster or carry position as well. Muscle memory is the thing, and you'll fight like you train, so it's always business presentations.

For single action work with my Rugers and Colts, I slow fire them, but again, as if I was hunting. 99% of my shooting is offhand, and I find when training for defensive shooting, that my DA groups are just about double the size of my SA ones. From the 10 yd line that's two inches shot at combat speed and I can hold an inch or less shooting slowly, SA or DA.

My single actions are fun guns..hobby stuff, but the J-frame Smiths are for business and are treated as such.

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Old January 9, 2014, 11:35 PM   #47
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I shoot my revolvers DAO. Its the way they were meant to be shot, and it really doesnt take much effort to learn to shoot them that way.
So why bother to allow the hammer to lock in the SA position? Yes its obviously intended to be used either way.

The DA is dual feature. Its a safety and its a firing mode. SA is an intended firing mode, it did not happen by accident and is not required by design (they do make DA only revolvers) .

My take is shoot it any way that suits you.

Me, I started out with an SA revolver and I was quite accurate with it (not that I did it left handed and standing on my head but I was pretty good standing upright right handed and not too bad left handed.

I am also a slow deliberate person. Shooting SA suited me and everything that I have heard or read over the years has endorsed the fact that shot placement is key. I don't shoot well real fast. Nice if you can do both of course. If I can't be fast I would rather be good and I would rather be good first than fast latter (or something like that) (phew)

I did have a terrific opportunity to find out (at least as close as you can get without a real need be it in woods protection or street.

I shot a Police course, no prep. We were briefed on the course and objective, given the guns and rounds and off we went (one part was left handed shooting)

I shot all the mid to long range stations SA. Once I got to the last short range stage I used DA. There were 20 some instructors involved (and 30 students) Only 3 of the instructors had higher scores than I did and they practiced the course all the time. None of the other students even came up to the bottom of the instructors score wise.

Could you shoot it DA, yes. Maybe even successfully. I shot it my way and it worked perfectly for me.

Someone else may shoot it different and thats fine. There are often more than one right way to do something. Its my way, it may not be your way. That does not make me right, nor does it make you right, it just makes you right for you and very possibly wrong for me.

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In the long run, by shooting them that way, you will become a better all around shooter, with everything you shoot.
I see no connection to anything else in that regard.
I do see understanding both yourself and your capability as well as the discipline in finding out what works for you as making it likely you will do well with other types of shooting.
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Old January 10, 2014, 07:38 AM   #48
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It might be easier for you to run DA by using your trigger finger on the face of the trigger, near the first distal joint.
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Old January 10, 2014, 08:54 AM   #49
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Me, I started out with an SA revolver and I was quite accurate with it (not that I did it left handed and standing on my head but I was pretty good standing upright right handed and not too bad left handed.

I am also a slow deliberate person. Shooting SA suited me and everything that I have heard or read over the years has endorsed the fact that shot placement is key. I don't shoot well real fast. Nice if you can do both of course. If I can't be fast I would rather be good and I would rather be good first than fast latter (or something like that) (phew)
I started out the same way, and ran into troubles, with heavy recoiling handguns, with light SA triggers. DAO shooting, changed all that, and I began to see pretty much instant improvement, in my shooting with all the other trigger types as well.

I understand the thought of being good, and Im sure we all strive to achive that, but sometimes, you need to do it quickly. If you dont shoot well quickly, then thats an indication of where you should be putting more of your attention in practice.

Anyone can be slow and deliberate. Its being able to shoot quickly without thought, under stress, that tends to separate the more narrowly focused shooters, from the more well rounded.

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Could you shoot it DA, yes. Maybe even successfully. I shot it my way and it worked perfectly for me.
I would say if youre used to shooting DA, doing so successfully, wouldnt not be an issue at all. Its just to those who are not used to shooting that way, that its difficult.

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Someone else may shoot it different and thats fine. There are often more than one right way to do something. Its my way, it may not be your way. That does not make me right, nor does it make you right, it just makes you right for you and very possibly wrong for me.
I agree to a point.

I used to feel the same way about shooting DA, until I was shown the way, and put a little time and effort in to learn to use it.

We really dont know what we dont know, until we push ourselves past our boundaries to learn new things. Getting past those boundaries, tends to offer new perspectives.


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I see no connection to anything else in that regard.
I really dont see how you cant, unless all you shoot, are SA or lightly tuned triggers. It translates into less fear of triggers overall, and especially ones youre not used to, and puts your focus on whats important, the sights, and maintaining proper alignment, until the gun goes off. For me, I dont really think about the trigger when I shoot. My focus is on the target and the sights.

As an example, when I first got into HK rifles/SMG's, the triggers were about the polar opposite of what most US shooters seem to need when it comes to a rifle trigger. All my buddies, and pretty much anyone else who shot those guns, complained loudly, that the triggers sucked, and they were hard to shoot. By then, I had been shooting DAO with my revolvers for quite some time, and I had no troubles at all shooting them, and shot them as well as I shot my M1's and M1A's, and a few others that others deemed "acceptable".


Youre right too, there really is no right or wrong way, as long as you can accomplish whats needed at the moment. Sometimes I think being realistic about your skills, is as much or more of a challenge as shooting is.
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Old January 10, 2014, 09:20 AM   #50
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Since the gun has two actions and each has its advantage why not pratice both and take full advantage of the design of the gun? On my double action revolvers I like to compare my single action fired targets to my doubles. But also owning many single action only revolvers I have learned that there is very little if any advantage to not shooting single action at least on the first shot. Pulling a revolver takes time, cocking the hammer adds nothing to that time.
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