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Old December 23, 2013, 06:02 PM   #1
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which is needed to purchase a gun in your state or country?

The requirements in Mexico are:
1 - Have completed national military service (done at 18 years old)(not needed if you're over 40 years old).
2 - No criminal record.
3 - Be enrolled in a hunting club (if you want to have long guns).
4 - Fill in the next format: http://www.mexicoarmado.com/attachme...d-de-armas.pdf
5- CURP.
6- Charter working.
7 - Proof of address.
8 - Identification.
9 - Birth Certificate.

PD: Sorry for my English.

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Old December 23, 2013, 06:16 PM   #2
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1) Proof of residence (driver lisc ok)

2) Pass National NICS background test ( instantly, or up to three days after form submission for automatic approval, if no instant answer)

3) Different states have varying qualifying hurdles, too many to list here, but the NRA (National Rifle Assn) has a comprehensive listing, AFAIK.


4) Enough $$$$$$ to purchase whatever.



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Old December 23, 2013, 06:25 PM   #3
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Canada - Possession and Acquisition Licence (requires criminal background check and two-day course in firearms handling, safety, and basic hunting common sense), and money. Show card, pay cash, grab gun and go. (There is a separate licence for those wanting pistols or higher-capacity centrefire semi-autos, which I haven't done because I don't need or want. Yet.) The same applies to sales of ammo, and I think also to primers and powders.
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Old December 23, 2013, 06:36 PM   #4
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In Mexico to buy cartridges only need to go to a store of cartridges or a sports store and submit the copy of the record of your weapon.
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Old December 23, 2013, 06:44 PM   #5
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In New Hampshire we just show our drivers license, the gun store does a background check over the phone, we pay and out the door we go.lol If theyre not busy we're done and on our way in about 15 20 min.
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Old December 23, 2013, 06:52 PM   #6
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Brian,
What is involved in buying a gun from another individual in Mexico?
Or does every firearm transaction have to go through a dealer?
Many of our states have exemptions for having to do the background checks for individual sales.
But we can only buy and sell to other individuals who are residents of the same state.
Any firearm exchanges that cross state lines have to go through a licensed dealer.
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Old December 23, 2013, 07:17 PM   #7
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G. willikers:
It can be bought and sold between individuals or in the DCAM. If I live in Yucatan(for example) I can buy a gun in Coahuila legally without problems.
To buy / sell individual owner only needs:
1- Present the weapon in any military barracks.
2- CURP, identification and proof of address.
3- Hunt Club credential (if is a long gun).
4- Pay $ 6.5 usd to military barracks.

PD: Sorry for my English.

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Old December 23, 2013, 07:50 PM   #8
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Brian,

Are you a hunter?

I's love to hunt huge Sonoran mule deer.
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Old December 23, 2013, 09:52 PM   #9
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I am a hunter, but unfortunately I cannot go out this season.
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Old December 23, 2013, 10:27 PM   #10
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which is needed to purchase a gun in your state
Here in Florida for a sale between two individuals the requirements are: cash
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Old December 24, 2013, 01:30 AM   #11
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MN__your good to go for either handgun or long gun if you have a valid CCP. If not and wanting to purchase a handgun. One has to apply for a limited time Buyers Permit at your local police or sheriffs department I think? Not to sure though? Have never had to apply for one as I've had a carry permit continuously since the early 80s. Not sure about rifle or shotgun purchases and what they require for someones legal purchase. I imagine too purchase any weapon in this State period you have to be 21 yrs old.
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Old December 24, 2013, 03:29 AM   #12
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MN__your good to go for either handgun or long gun if you have a valid CCP. If not and wanting to purchase a handgun. One has to apply for a limited time Buyers Permit at your local police or sheriffs department I think? Not to sure though? Have never had to apply for one as I've had a carry permit continuously since the early 80s. Not sure about rifle or shotgun purchases and what they require for someones legal purchase. I imagine too purchase any weapon in this State period you have to be 21 yrs old.
In Minnesota it's 18+ for hunting shotguns and rifles, and all you need is to pass the NICS background check and sign papers that say you're not a felon/drug addict. Anybody over 18 can buy "assault weapons" or whatever with a permit to purchase or ccw permit. 21+ for handguns from ffl with those permits. Private sales are pretty lax in MN. No paperwork needs to be filed for private transfers (permit to purchase or ccw for handguns and "assault weapons". Laws aren't too bad here in Minnesota (yet)
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Old December 24, 2013, 03:55 AM   #13
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The requirements in Mexico are:
1 - Have completed national military service (done at 18 years old)(not needed if you're over 40 years old).
2 - No criminal record.
3 - Be enrolled in a hunting club (if you want to have long guns).
4 - Fill in the next format: http://www.mexicoarmado.com/attachme...d-de-armas.pdf
5- CURP.
6- Charter working.
7 - Proof of address.
8 - Identification.
9 - Birth Certificate.

PD: Sorry for my English.
Does that mean it's easier to purchase handguns than long guns in Mexico?
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Old December 24, 2013, 04:16 AM   #14
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Over here you need to be a permanent resident.

After that you need to pass an exam related to the firearms act and first aid (including a practical test requiring a base level of accuracy but also proof of safe weapons handling),
-have a psychological review by a medical professional, a hearing test (I know, I know....) and
-proof (especially if you're a foreigner) that you don't have any criminal convictions.

After that there are small fees for each firearm you wish to buy.

If you plan to own more than one, then a gun cabinet is compulsory.

Once that has all been done there are further hoops for those who plan to hunt or do sports shooting, notably a further test and a club membership.
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Old December 24, 2013, 06:54 AM   #15
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Nothing but federal regs where I live for buying from an FFL...

As for private sale...If I know an individual in Vermont that has a gun for sale, all that is required is that the person selling me the gun knows that I am a resident of Vermont, and has no reason to believe I am a 'restricted person'...
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Old December 24, 2013, 09:50 AM   #16
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Does that mean it's easier to purchase handguns than long guns in Mexico?
If, though are the same steps to buying a rifle and a handgun, only to buy a long guns must be enrolled in a hunting club(I explain?).
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Old December 24, 2013, 09:56 AM   #17
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Here in NJ it sucks.
For a long gun (from a FFL or a private transaction) you first need to submit for, and obtain a firearm purchaser ID card. (Which requires a background check, an interview, references (they check your references), fingerprints, a fee, and a little bit of runaround/delay by the local PD.) At the time of purchase, the FFL does the routine background check, and you're good to go. For a private sale, the purchaser must show their FID card, and there is a form both parties fill out, sign, and keep with their records.

For a handgun, in addition to the FID card, you must apply for and obtain a permit from local PD for each gun, which requires another background check, another fee, and more runaround/delay by local PD. (If you don't already have a FID card, you can process that and the handgun permit simultaneously and save some of the fees). The permit is good for three months, and I believe you can only buy one per month. Present your permit and FID card to a dealer, and after the instant background check you're good to go. For a private sale, The buyer still needs a permit (a 3 part form) and the seller keeps one and sends one to the PD, and the buyer keeps one.

Note: It is illegal in NJ to sell a firearm or buy a firearm without the buyer having a FID card.
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Old December 24, 2013, 10:02 AM   #18
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California (off the CA Attorney General's website):

Generally, all firearms purchases and transfers, including private party transactions and sales at gun shows, must be made through a California licensed dealer under the Dealer’s Record of Sale (DROS) process. California law imposes a 10-day waiting period before a firearm can be released to a purchaser or transferee. A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun. To purchase a handgun, a person must be at least 21 years of age. As part of the DROS process, the purchaser must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.

If the purchaser is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing the firearms dealer with documentation containing his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.

Purchasers of handguns must provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification), and either (1) possess a Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) plus successfully complete a safety demonstration with their recently purchased handgun or (2) qualify for an HSC exemption.
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Old December 24, 2013, 10:34 AM   #19
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In the UK you need a firearms certificate to get it you need.

Photographs

The form itself is pale blue and comes in an A3 sized folded sheet together with 2 'referee' forms (Form 125) in single A4 size. The form should be completed and sent or taken to the Police Firearms Licensing Department and must be accompanied by 4 identical current photographs of the applicant (passport size), one of which must be signed on the back in ink by the applicant. Each of your 2 referees must also sign and date a separate photograph using the words "I CERTIFY THAT THIS IS A CURRENT TRUE LIKENESS OF ….." with your name inserted.

Convictions

You are not entitled to withhold information about any offence you may have committed. This includes motoring offences, convictions in places outside the UK and (by virtue of the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (Exceptions) Order1975) convictions which are 'spent' under the 1974 Act. A conditional discharge and an absolute discharge count as convictions for this purpose

Suitability to Possess Firearms

The police must be satisfied that you are a fit person to be entrusted with firearms without danger to public safety or to the peace. The police will take into account whether there is any known history of alcohol, drug or medication abuse, violent of unsociable behavior or mental or psychiatric disorder. Your referees will be asked to indicate any such occurrences and mention anything which gives them cause for concern about your suitability to possess firearms.

Referees

If you are applying for the grant of a FAC you must provide the names and addresses of 2 referees both of whom must have known you personally for at least 2 years. Referees must be of good character and members of your immediate family, police officers/employees, registered firearms dealers or non-UK residents may not act as referees. No payment may be made for references. (Registered firearms dealers may act as a referee in the case of a renewal of a FAC where the dealer is an official of the target club).

Security

The Police will undoubtedly require you to keep guns and ammunition in a British Standard 'Kitemarked' gun safe(s) or in a properly constructed gun room. Home made cabinets may be acceptable but you should seek police advice as to construction requirements. Humberside police expect you to have a British Standard alarm system if you wish to hold more than 9 guns. An alarm is not however a legal requirement. The gun safe must be securely rawl-bolted to a solid wall of the house and not be in a position which is readily visible to casual view. Inside a wardrobe, concealed under the stairs or in a loft are good places. Ammunition must be kept in a separate lockable metal box, again securely fixed to a wall. Some cabinets have a separate, lockable section for ammunition. 14g steel is usual in BS approved safes and external 'piano' type hinges are frowned upon as they are thought to be susceptible to attack - though I think stout piano hinges with multiple weld points would hold out against attack by a thief for quite

Quantities of Firearms

There is no legal limit to how many guns and ammunition you may apply for. However, the greater the quantity then the greater will be the necessity to justify your requests to the police. Of the FAC and quantities of ammunition which are economical to purchase but are reasonable.


Sounds like a lot but is quite straight forward, If I wanted a firearm today for the first time it would take around a few weeks.
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Old December 24, 2013, 10:52 AM   #20
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Brian- Just call the White House if you need a gun. I'm sure they'll send another one down there to Mexico
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Here in Nevada it's pretty easy. As long as your 18 (with ID) person to person sales require nothing, adults can buy and sell guns at garage sales. From dealers all you need is a valid ID, and $25 for the background check.

I should note, that this is for long guns, handguns you must be 21. But everything else is still the same.

Edit--here in NV at 18yrs old you can legally purchase rifles/shotguns, tobacco, and prostitutes. You have to wait until you are 21 for handguns, booze, and gambling.
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Old December 24, 2013, 11:45 AM   #22
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Brian- Just call the White House if you need a gun. I'm sure they'll send another one down there to Mexico
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Old December 24, 2013, 12:17 PM   #23
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Brian- Just call the White House if you need a gun. I'm sure they'll send another one down there to Mexico
I wish they really was well.
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Old December 24, 2013, 12:37 PM   #24
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"In New Hampshire we just show our drivers license, the gun store does a background check over the phone, we pay and out the door we go.lol If theyre not busy we're done and on our way in about 15 20 min."

So far that has been my experience in my home state, Louisiana, and the following.....TX, TN, AR, WI, MN, NE, SD, ID and MT. This is for long guns.
Handguns by federal law have to be purchased in your state of residence.
I travel a lot, and I never know where I'll be when a sale occurs, hence the numerous places I've bought guns in.
And I've bought ammo in every state I've tried to, unrestricted, as it should be.
But I wouldn't even try in IL, CA or the northeast states. Even if they would let me, I refuse to give any tax money to gun grabber states.
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Old December 24, 2013, 05:59 PM   #25
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Drivers license or other approved form of ID and filling out a form saying you're not a felon, current address etc. Gun shop does a background check over the phone, no charge. You pay your money and walk out with it. FTF you pay and leave with it. Gunshows, just show your drivers license to prove you live in the state.
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