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Old December 30, 2013, 11:47 AM   #1
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9x18mm JHP, .357 158 gr Gold Dot, 10mm 155 gr C.O.P. gelatin test

9x18mm Silver Bear 115 gr JHP video link



(Top: bare gel, Bottom: denim)





9x18mm Silver Bear 115 gr JHP fired from Arsenal Makarov* into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 602.8fps, 3.0"

4 layers of denim

Impact velocity: 1,040 fps
Penetration: 29.7"
Retained weight: 116.0 gr
No expansion



Bare gelatin

Impact velocity: 1,043 fps
Penetration: 8.9"
Retained weight: 117.0 gr
Max expansion: 0.659"
Min expansion: 0.477"



*please note, this ammunition DOES NOT feed correctly in my Makarov.




.357 mag Double Tap 158 gr Gold Dot video link








.357 mag Double Tap 158 gr Gold Dot fired from 4" S&W Model 13 through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 602.8 fps, 3.0"

Impact velocity: 1,304 fps
Penetration: 23.8"
Retained weight: 158.1 gr
Max expansion: 0.534"
Min expansion: 0.449"





10mm C.O.P. 155 gr all copper hollow point video link








10mm C.O.P. 155 gr all copper hollow point fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB: 602.8 fps, 3.0"

Impact velocity: 1,008 fps
Penetration: 10.2"
Retained weight: 153.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.776"
Min expansion: 0.455"
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Old December 30, 2013, 11:56 PM   #2
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I am not sure what your point is , but I have a .357Mag. For self defense I don't feel the need for 23" of penetration. I use 38Spl hollow points in it. On the other hand, If one goes camping, I don't think the 9X18 round will do much to a bear.
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:18 AM   #3
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Just sharing this week's tests.
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Old December 31, 2013, 12:28 AM   #4
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really nice pics, thanks, i love looking at jelly tests
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Old December 31, 2013, 08:40 AM   #5
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*please note, this ammunition DOES NOT feed correctly in my Makarov.
Get some Flitz and a Dremel with a polishing tip and polish the leading edge of the feed ramp. The lip of the hollow point is probably catching on the edge of the ramp.
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Old December 31, 2013, 11:31 AM   #6
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I did that. Still had trouble. Just as well, though. After seeing the inadequate penetration and difficulty with clothing, I'd rather not carry this ammunition. I'll probably test some of the Hornady stuff soon.
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Old December 31, 2013, 11:22 PM   #7
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I think the Makarov were made when there's only hardballs.
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Old January 4, 2014, 09:59 AM   #8
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I know this is a little off topic but,
if anyone is considering using a dremel Please go slow and careful, I,ve seen more gun barrels ruined by this tool than helped by it.
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