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Old November 16, 2013, 04:32 PM   #1
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How about a 9mm Makarov for CCW

It just reaches 100fps w/100 gr in a very small package. About 15% better than a .380 and about 80% of a 9mm...

I am considering it for those T-shirt and Shorts days for pocket carry
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Old November 16, 2013, 06:27 PM   #2
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Sure why not? The only down side is that your choice in carry guns is limited, and the choice in ammo can also be kind of limited.
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Old November 16, 2013, 06:47 PM   #3
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Lots of Radom P64 are available. Hornady offers Critical Defense ammo which is reasonably accurate and reliable... 95gr at 950-1000fps... in ballistics gelatin it mushrooms to .500+ so it fits the bottom end of the envelope
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Old November 16, 2013, 06:50 PM   #4
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Makarov (9x18) sits between 380 (9x17) and 9mm Luger (9x19); and people carry 380s. So it seems logical enough to carry to me.
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Old November 16, 2013, 07:11 PM   #5
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While we are on Russian rounds why not carry the 7.62 Tokarev?

You know, just for fun
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Old November 16, 2013, 07:22 PM   #6
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I carry a p-64 whenever possible. great carry option if you don't mind a little weight.
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Old November 16, 2013, 10:21 PM   #7
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I carry several different maks and a p83 on occasion and never feel like I don't have enough gun
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Old November 16, 2013, 10:36 PM   #8
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I carried a Russian Makarov IJ70 for a few years. It's a great gun and a great shooter. I still have it and carry it from time to time loaded with Hornadys.
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Old November 17, 2013, 07:13 AM   #9
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I sometimes carry one of my Bulgarian Makarovs, and feel well armed.
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Old November 17, 2013, 07:39 AM   #10
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Shooting my P64 can be very painful. It kicks pretty hard.

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Old November 17, 2013, 07:58 AM   #11
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I love my CZ82... Have been using it as my permanent car gun for a long time
so it gets occasionally carried playing that role... Very trustworthy gun.
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Old November 21, 2013, 02:54 AM   #12
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My Bulgarian Mak is one of my 3 CC options that I pick from (as well as my CZ75 and my S&W 642). It's perhaps one of the most accurate small guns I have ever shot, even with those tiny little GI sights. I can get the ammo for about $20/50 for brass FMJ, and keep 3 mags loaded with Hornady SD ammo. I currently have it tucked away in the car, since I work in a GFZ
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Old November 21, 2013, 04:20 AM   #13
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9mm Makarov would do just fine for CCW. It's a nice middle ground between .380 and 9mm luger
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Old November 21, 2013, 07:42 AM   #14
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It is one of the only carry guns that I load with FMJ. I think with the Mak, as well as with .380, penetration trumps expansion. I prefer to carry a 1911 but I don't hesitate to carry a Mak and did so for years. The first time I used it to qualify no one could believe the accuracy.
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Old November 28, 2013, 05:33 PM   #15
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I really like my Bulg Mak for carry. For lighter weight clothing I use my P64. Both in OWB as I find IWB uncomfortable. I am looking for a more modern replacement for my P64 carry days, such as Shield or P290 but will keep the Mak
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Old November 28, 2013, 10:11 PM   #16
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How about a 9mm Makarov for CCW

May want to post this in one of the handgun or tactics forums.
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Old November 28, 2013, 11:26 PM   #17
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Check out the Zastava, its 9mm Luger
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Old November 29, 2013, 06:18 AM   #18
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I also carried a P64 for a while and loved it.
Don't forget Underwood offers a "+P" load that pushes a 95gr XTP to 1150 fps (probably from a makarov).

They also offer a 115gr lead RNFP rated at 1000 fps.
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Old October 8, 2015, 01:12 PM   #19
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Safety of P64?

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I recently read a thread (that I cannot locate at the moment) where an individual who was using a P64 as his carry gun had an accidental discharge. He claimed that then re-holstering the makarov with the safety off, the rail caught on the holster, pulling back the hammer enought to cause it to fire accidentally.
(he was unhurt)

I'm thinking... if you carry with a round in the chamber, but with the safety on, wouldn't that protect from an accidental discharge? Then if you have to use your gun, you simply flip the safety switch.

thoughs?
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Old October 9, 2015, 10:32 AM   #20
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I have a CZ82, Been debating using it for a winter carry gun, aside from the weight, I think it should be OK.

My biggest concern is that you can't decock it without pulling the trigger. Seems silly to carry a double action pistol cocked and locked.
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Old October 9, 2015, 11:21 AM   #21
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What Skadoosh said

The P-64 has a trigger guard that has a reltively sharp bottom edge.

I have one in 9mm Mak and one in .380. The .380 is more fun to shoot.
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Old October 10, 2015, 08:51 AM   #22
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First i love shooting all of my Combloc pistols, however, they were designed as combat weapons and as such are simple, robust and reliable. What the also are is heavy, i can find many more modern pistols in my safe that are easier to carry yet provide a similar punch.
I have a lot of fun shooting the pistols, but i will bow to others who want the Mak for every day carry and stick to my Sig P 238.
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Old October 10, 2015, 11:39 AM   #23
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A Century Arms CZ-82 loaded with Hornady Custom 95gr JHPs is an excellent EDC combination!
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Old October 10, 2015, 08:26 PM   #24
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Plenty of people carry .380s, so the marginally better 9 Mak is just as good. My CZ 82 rides in my car, while it's sibling, a CZ 83 chambered in .380, rides on my hip.

I find the 83 a comfortable carry gun. Yes, there are lighter guns, but they don't have the capacity nor are as pleasant to shoot.
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Old October 11, 2015, 04:50 AM   #25
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Limnophile, Agree the CZ 82 is one finely engineered pistol, i have several which have never failed to fire even with Brown Bear crappy steel case ammo. For me the size and weight are just a bit excessive for concealment in my case. A few years back, prior to retirement i would have loved this pistol over the PPK i did carry in LE where i carried concealed always. On paper my 82's will print large connecting groups at fifteen yards and inside a three inch bull at 25 from a support. I just received a couple of Bulgarian Mak's and once i put a few hundred through them to loosen things a bit i will see what they will do on paper.
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