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Old November 16, 2013, 01:45 PM   #1
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Need help choosing

Hello to everyone ,(sorry if wrong section)



I'm in a predicament , I'm stuck between to choices and need so help making my mind up . I have to options In mind ;

Option A: buy a center fire bolt action and a alright scope try to keep it under $800 dollars , either a Remington 700 adl , savage trophy hunter or a howa 1500 all can be found under 800 (not a lot of funds reason for option b)



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Option B : put a glass on my saiga 7.62x39 and buy a nice bolt action 22lr with a good glass on it .

The needs for the center fire rifles would be hunting medium game. Such as white tail and mule deer

But if I would buy a 22 I could have fun plinking rifle and my saiga would be good up to 200yards for live game and 500 yards for steel

Thanks to everyone in advance for any advice .
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Old November 16, 2013, 07:41 PM   #2
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IMO the 7.62 X 39 is not a 200 yard deer cartridge. It's more of a 125 yard deer cartridge.
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Old November 17, 2013, 10:15 AM   #3
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Given those options I would go with option A. A good bolt action is a better choice for hunting. And save up for the 22.

I will offer option C: get a budget bolt action like the Marlin X, Ruger American or Savage Axis, and A budget 22. Scope both modestly. Then save up for the really nice gun/scope you want.
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Old November 17, 2013, 09:04 PM   #4
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Big al hunter has the right idea with option c if your just starting out it will benifit you in the long run
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Old November 17, 2013, 09:28 PM   #5
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out of the three rifles marlin, the axis, and ruger american would you guys recommend? also how would they compare towards a remington 700adl ? also comparing it to a howa 1500 im being offered in 30-06 for 450
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Old November 17, 2013, 09:35 PM   #6
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I have three rifles built on the Howa action, Weatherby .257, S&W 7mm Rem Mag, and Howa 1500 .223. They are all great shooters.
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Old November 17, 2013, 09:55 PM   #7
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I would go with the Axis. It is proven accuracy out of the box. Trigger is a easy fix and now you can get a stock for $99.00 from Boyds.
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Old November 17, 2013, 11:05 PM   #8
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I have a Weatherby Vanguard in the stable (same as your Howa). It's a good, solid rifle.

I have no experience with the Axis, so I won't comment there.

I have handled a Ruger American and have read several posts on here about their accuracy being very good. With a ~$320 price tag, there's plenty of room for optics, rings and ammo.

As for the Remington 700, they are solid rifles and I have a BDL in the safe too. I have been eyeballing a youth 700 with scope for $415 at the local Walmart. The scope is a Bushnell I believe. They have other packages for close to that.

Bottom line, for your $800 price point, even Savage is in your reach. They have some package deals wih Nikon glass you could still get into. I think you should have no problem putting together a respectable hunting rig and any of those should do fine.
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Old November 20, 2013, 01:20 AM   #9
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Need help choosing

Thanks to every one for their replys I'll have to keep my eyes open for a short action I'm passing on the 30-06 I would prefer a .308 so the searching will continue a lot of the sports stores are having a lot of sales on certain rifle might have to go check them out and see which one feels better in my hands . Thanks again
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Old November 20, 2013, 12:08 PM   #10
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I'd recommend the Ruger American as an inexpensive, yet a great buy. Get a Leupold 3-9X VX-2 and you've got an accurate, nice-handling rifle.

Check on .308 ammo availability before buying. I've found it relatively scarce compared with hunting cartridges like the .270 Win, .30-06, etc.
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Old November 20, 2013, 01:41 PM   #11
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As already stated check ammo availability as far as the .308 goes. I could go to my local Walmart right now and find .243,270,-06, 300 mag, and 7mm mag and I guarantee there won't be a single box of .308. Keep in mind that people that are still panicking over ammo have ar 10's that shoot .308 so they buy up everything they can.
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Old November 20, 2013, 02:31 PM   #12
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So far at my local Walmart and big 5 I can find .308 and 30-06 no 270 Winchester take into consideration I live in Cali so my hunting ammo has to be ordered online since I have to use copper bullets in the condor section , so I would just sight in my scope with that kind of ammo and just shoot that even if I'm not in the condor section . I am well aware of their being more hunting ammo for 30-06 then 308 but being that .308 would be a short action their would be more rifle stock options compared to the long action. So far I am still debating on both rounds and seeing what comes up thanks for everyone's opinion. Keep em coming . Also about the ruger I'll have to check it out at bass pro this coming Black Friday they will be on special that day .
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Old November 20, 2013, 08:15 PM   #13
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lots of 308 ammo here in Fargo,ND
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Old November 28, 2013, 05:58 PM   #14
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Need help choosing

Hey so I have another question ,( you guys are probably tired of me anyways)

I have been looking at rifles and I found the savage trophy hunter xp for 509 plus tax and dros but I started thinking I could buy savage axis xp and a 22lr and still have left over for ammo for the same price . I need help deciding before this weekend .
Thanks again.
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Old November 29, 2013, 09:15 AM   #15
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According to the Savage website the Trophy Hunter already comes with a Nikon BDC scope mounted... For $509, that leaves you almost $300 for a sling and ammo.

The Nikon glass is good for its price point. I did not see if it was a Pro Staff model or their Buckmasters line... But either will work.

If you get the Axis, it won't come with a factory-mounted scope and you lose the accutrigger, which I have dry fired but never shot. Those who own them seem to like them more than the non-accutrigger. So off the bat you will have to invest a couple hundred for the scope, then bases and rings, then sling and ammo...

Out of your options you mentioned, I would suggest the Trophy Hunter.
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Old November 29, 2013, 01:40 PM   #16
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The axis comes with a bushnell 3-9 scope can be found at bass pro for 329 for this weekend
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Old November 30, 2013, 08:43 AM   #17
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Your money, your call. I personally prefer Nikon glass to Bushnell, but that is a preference. If your choices are those 2, I would still go for the Trophy Hunter.

Interesting about the package deal on the Axis. I didn't see it listed on the Savage website. I must have missed it or BPS is putting it together as a package deal.

Good luck on your choice. Regardless of what you get, go shoot it! A bunch!!
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Old November 30, 2013, 06:11 PM   #18
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Academy has adl's for $379 right now.... It's hard to beat that
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Old December 1, 2013, 05:34 PM   #19
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I wish their was an academy sports in socal ....
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