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Old November 5, 2013, 12:09 PM   #26
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Lotta lotta good stuff there.
I didn't read it.
Let me try.
1. Load gun.
2. Pull trigger.
Oh, and I guess like someone else said, read and follow the directions written by lawyers. A. Do not point gun at head. B. Do not point gun at crotch. C. Etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum.
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Old November 5, 2013, 01:09 PM   #27
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Quote:
1. Load gun.
2. Pull trigger.
That's kinda like telling someone how to drive by saying:
1. Turn key.

2. Put in gear and mash gas pedal.



Results would be just as predictably dismal.

re: Mas' "stressfire" reload

I'm nowhere near the revolver expert Mas Ayoob is, but I never understood why he insists on the gun changing hands, just so the speed loader could be manipulated with the "dextrous" hand ..... if the "fight or flight" shakes are going to be that bad, moving the gun to the "non-dextrous hand (and back) and risk dropping it would be a non starter.

I'm all for keeping the gun in my firing hand, and the hand of the grip.
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Old November 5, 2013, 07:19 PM   #28
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NY reload....

You could always go with the ole New York Reload.

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Old November 6, 2013, 12:47 AM   #29
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"Results would be just as predictably dismal."

Somewhat of an overstatement, isn't it?

What percent of gun owners never had any formal training whatsoever?
Other than a relative or someone giving them a brief rundown?
Probably far more than half?
And isn't that their right?
Or should there be extensive governmental regulation, requiring "training" like the police all get?
Or is it true that even many of law enforcement get no particular formal training?
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Old November 6, 2013, 12:46 PM   #30
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Since Charles has dropped out, much like a poster elsewhere asking identical questions about revolvers, it might be possible that he's either messing with us or too embarrassed to return.

Either way, it appears this thread's passed the point of anything else useful to say.
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Old November 6, 2013, 04:56 PM   #31
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Quote:
Results would be just as predictably dismal."

Somewhat of an overstatement, isn't it?

What percent of gun owners never had any formal training whatsoever?
Other than a relative or someone giving them a brief rundown?
Probably far more than half?
And isn't that their right?
Or should there be extensive governmental regulation, requiring "training" like the police all get?
Or is it true that even many of law enforcement get no particular formal training?
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I did not say that training should be required.

I do believe that people that assume that all they have to do is pull the trigger are setting themselves up for failure at crunch time.

Having a gun is better than not having one..... having a gun and the skills and mindset to use it effectively would be better, don't you think?
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Old November 6, 2013, 08:37 PM   #32
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The OP sent med a pm that he did seek out training. I think he will be posting an update.
I wasnt implying that everyone should have a professional trainer. A mentor of some sort is much better than watching videos of "Professional Russian" on youtube. How can anyone recommend someone other than a certified trainer over the internet?
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