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Old January 4, 2014, 10:19 AM   #1
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600 Yard shooting matches

Looking into getting into 600 yard shooting competitions. Looking for advice on everything from scope to rifle selections and modifications. Do hunt but looking to add this to my shooting.
Thanks for any and all advice
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Old January 4, 2014, 10:43 AM   #2
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What kind of 600 yard shooting competitions?
Rules dictate what rifle and caliber you can use.
Shoot F-Class Open and it can be any caliber up to .35 with gun weight up to 22 lbs and any scope you want.
For NRA Service Rifle, it has to be an M16/AR15, M14/M1A, or M110/clone.
Etc.
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Old January 4, 2014, 12:18 PM   #3
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Starting with bench rest. But contemplating service also I do have an AR platform 5.6.
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Old January 4, 2014, 01:11 PM   #4
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Just a note about Service Rifle. You may already know this but....
the 600 yard part is only 25% of the whole match.
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Old January 4, 2014, 01:31 PM   #5
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For benchrest rifle info, do a google search for "NBRSA" then read their rules. You can also go to:

http://www.6mmbr.com/index.html

then check out what's used in 600 yard benchrest matches.

For NRA service rifle matches, go to:

http://competitions.nra.org/document...R/hpr-book.pdf

CMP rules for service rifle matches are about the same as for NRA ones.
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Old January 4, 2014, 10:51 PM   #6
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Thank you so much Bart. Lots of useful ammo information. Now need to do more rifle and scope research.
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Old January 4, 2014, 10:54 PM   #7
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Jim. There are several 600 yard bench rest in my area. But am interested in service rifle also seems very challenging with iron sights.
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Old January 5, 2014, 10:06 AM   #8
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But am interested in service rifle also seems very challenging with iron sights.
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For NRA Service Rifle, it has to be an M16/AR15, M14/M1A, or M110/clone
Careful here, CMP rules regarding Service Rifle are more strict then NRA Rules. Where rules conflict CMP Rules override the NRA. For example the CMP doesn't consider the M110 as a service rifle.

When you get into high power you're going to end up wanting to work toward your Distinguished Rifle Badge, that means CMP, so in choosing a rifle be sure to consult the CMP Service Rifle Rules.
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Old January 5, 2014, 11:26 PM   #9
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Kraig, everyone shooting high power doesn't want to get the Distinguished Badge. I've known a couple (including outdoor pistol ones) who refused to compete in DCM EIC (Leg) matches. They didn't think much of the DCM's program because it allowed non-firing team members (team coaches and captains) on teams placing in the top 10% in the Nat'l Trophy Team Match to also get credit points. There are a few old Distinguished shooters out there who never fired a shot in competition.

Fortunately, for the rest of us, that was changed sometime around 1960; it was only set up for individual EIC matches thereafter.
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Old January 6, 2014, 01:44 AM   #10
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Don't forget the M1 Garand as a Service Rifle. Don't see many of them on the line any more, but it is still a CMP/NRA legal option.

Most competitors are using AR-15's launching 75 gr bullets or heavier, although some guys getting started with 1:9 twist barrels use 68~69 gr BTHP bullets for a "cross the course" load.

The AR-15 is definitely the easiest to shoot, and the cheapest in terms of getting started with a factory rifle that can take you to High Master or Distinguished.

A factory DCM rifle is available from Bushmaster, DPMS, and Rock River with great features like half minute sights, match two stage trigger, and free floated heavy barrel. Expect to pay a premium, but still WAY cheaper than a match grade M1A.

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Old January 6, 2014, 03:19 AM   #11
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F-T/R

I don't know anything about benchrest, except that I suspect it is gear and tackle heavy. And I have never shot Service Rifle.

I have shot F-T/R. Across the course to 600 and at a fixed 1000. You can do it with an across the counter heavy barrel .308 or .223 and a bipod. You can go gear heavy or stay (reasonably) affordable. Most likely, you will not shoot up to the ability of your gear for a long while....cause your ammo is not up to par, or you cannot read wind.....or both. (me)

You can take the same rifle (if something like a HB Savage or Rem 700) and wang away at varmints or even medium game later.

If your like me, you're just happy not to finish last, and beat your own last score........sometimes.

Seems to me F-T/R may be the easiest way to get into 600 yds.
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Old January 6, 2014, 08:41 AM   #12
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Thanks everyone for all the great advice and coments. Now where is the best place to look for schedules of these mataches?
Thanks again
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Old January 6, 2014, 11:22 AM   #13
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Thanks everyone for all the great advice and coments. Now where is the best place to look for schedules of these mataches?
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What state do you reside? The US is a very large land mass, you might not be interested in matches in Hawaii or Alaska.

Generally, a good place to check is Shooting Sports USA.
http://www.nrapublications.org/index...ng-sports-usa/

But not all matches are listed in Shooting Sports USA, so knowing your state, others might be able to point you in the direction of matches that are not listed.
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Old January 7, 2014, 09:52 AM   #14
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Good thinking Slamfire. I live in Southern Wisconsin. So Northern Illinois is an option also.
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Old January 7, 2014, 11:33 AM   #15
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Here is BR site

http://benchrest.com/forum.php
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Old January 8, 2014, 11:22 AM   #16
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6x47 lapua would be my pick, I had 2 of them made.
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