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Old October 23, 2013, 07:02 AM   #51
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Some modern fast twist rifles shoot patched round balls surprisingly well. My old CVA StagHorn with it's 1:32" twist rate makes tiny groups using patched round ball and 70 grains of 3F Goex Pinnacle. The newer Stag Horn guns have 1:28" twist rate . My .54 caliber TC Fire Hawk inline has a 1:38" twist rate. It shoots patched round balls like a dream.

The slow twist rate of the old patched round ball guns allowed for a wide variation of the powder charge without horizontal dispersion when using the fixed sights.

This is a good article that dispels some myths and explains some things about the old patched round ball long rifles. The link may have been posted here previously:

http://home.comcast.net/~illinewek/faqs/boonegun.htm

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Old October 23, 2013, 07:12 AM   #52
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"The wheel weight balls are accurate too."

I never had ANY success with balls that were much harder than pure lead. The guy I shot with said it was probably a case of the patch being unable to adequately grasp the ball.

"Some modern fast twist rifles shoot patched round balls surprisingly well."

It's easier to get decent accuracy from a slow-twist projectile in a fast-twist barrel than from a fast-twist projectile in a slow-twist barrel.

Over stabilized means stabilized, but under stabilized means not stabilized.
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Old October 23, 2013, 08:30 AM   #53
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You can still find some old/new stock on the Maxi's as well as molds. A very good sub or even better than the MaxiHunter, is the Hornady Great Plaines and still, there are better than those. .....
I have been looking for some, but I'm not having much luck.

I did pick up a box of the Great Plains to try, but I haven't yet.
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Old October 23, 2013, 08:08 PM   #54
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Pure lead isn't necessary for good accuracy with a round ball. This target was shot at 50 yards using balls cast from used wheel weight lead. I fired 10 shots, though only 9 are discernible. After my first shot I adjusted my sight picture a bit to get the very nice group shown.


I was shooting a .50 cal flintlock with open sights. I should note that I've never been mistaken for a true marksman. I suspect younger eyes could do better.
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Old October 24, 2013, 07:27 AM   #55
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As I said, I never had much luck with anything harder than lead...

In MY rifle.

Thinking some more about it, based on what my shooting partner said, I wonder if using a different thickness or weave patch material might have made a difference...
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Old October 24, 2013, 07:41 AM   #56
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With pure lead balls I used .495" balls with a 0.018" patch, which is a tight load. When I switched to wheel weight balls I dropped down to a 0.490" ball and 0.015" patch to make loading easier. That's what I used to shoot the above target. It seems to work. The elk thought so too!
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