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View Poll Results: Which .223 bolt action?
CZ 527 15 24.59%
Winchester Model 70 12 19.67%
Ruger M77 Hawkeye 7 11.48%
Something else 27 44.26%
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Old October 14, 2013, 03:38 PM   #1
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Which bolt .223

Hello folks,

Am looking for a .223 bolt action rifle and haven't seen a thread done on this for a while so...

What do people reckon is the best? As I'd be looking for a rifle to replicate my hunting rifles which are all "Mauser" type actions but would be open to suggestions.

Probably would go for a "sporter" type stock so when answering please feel free to elaborate below. And as always be happy to hear about other suggestions.

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Old October 14, 2013, 03:57 PM   #2
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I don't have much personal experience but my friend had a Howa 1500 that came with a Redfield scope 2-7x. Our range goes out to 300 yards and the rifle was very accurate at all ranges up to that. Couldn't speak to any other bolt action .223s though. IIRC it was holding ragged hole sized groups at 50 yards.

I want to say that rifle will set you back maybe $600 with the scope but it's been maybe 2 years since he's had that one, so I couldn't say for sure.

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Old October 14, 2013, 04:17 PM   #3
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Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 needs to be on your list. Match grade 2-stage trigger and guaranteed to shoot sub-MOA out of the box. Mine does that easily. For about a $500 rifle, it's one of the best values out there.
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Old October 14, 2013, 04:27 PM   #4
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You might consider the Tikka T3 lite in .223. I know that I am. I recently, in the last year or so, bought a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Beautiful trigger, adjusted down to 2 lbs. Smooooth action. Light weight, just at six pounds for the rifle. Accurate, my hunting handloads literally go into the same ragged hole at 100 yards from the bench. Absolutely need an aftermarket recoil pad; for 30-06, limbsaver on mine.

The problem with having a Tikka is that now I am seriously considering getting one in .223 Rem just because. I already have a Rem 700 SPS Varmint with a Jewell trigger set at 1 lbs. in it that gets sub-1/2 moa consistently. But, it is really heavy compared to my Tikka in 30-06. Doesn't everybody just need another rifle?
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Old October 14, 2013, 05:00 PM   #5
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For top quality, you can't beat the new Model 70. Class leading. For best bang for the bucks the Savage is a tack driver.
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Old October 14, 2013, 05:21 PM   #6
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Unless you can find a deal on a used model 70 Winchester your not going to find a .223 unless it is the WSSM. Winchester hasn't made a .223 Remington rifle in years, and the old push feed rifles are pretty rare. However the WSSM also was discontinued but you can find them all over used.

The closest thing you'll find to a .223 on a M70 action brand new is a Kimber. I've handled a Montana in .223 and if I had the $1200 they were asking for it, I would have brought it home. Other than that I'd go with the CZ as my second choice and the Ruger as the third. You could try and find as well an old Charles Daly, Interarms Mark X, or Remington 799 Mini Mauser action in .223, but it isn't a true Mauser action.
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Old October 14, 2013, 06:16 PM   #7
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If your not hung up on looks and just want a very accurate rifle- Look no further than a Savage of any model.
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Old October 14, 2013, 06:20 PM   #8
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Winchester does not offer their model 70 in 223 currently. You'll have to buy used, and several years old at that.
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Old October 14, 2013, 07:25 PM   #9
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+ 1 for Savage
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Old October 14, 2013, 07:39 PM   #10
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what model Savage do you guys recommend in 223 ?
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Old October 14, 2013, 07:51 PM   #11
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I bought a Ruger 77 Mk II light sporter in .223, about a dozen years back. It has been a half-MOA shooter from the git-go, even before I installed a Timney trigger in it.
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Old October 14, 2013, 08:32 PM   #12
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I have 9 of them now and have yet to find one that won't shoot sub MOA.. In the 223- FVSS. Little more than you want to spend,but worth it. Then the Axis very low cost but also very very accurate. Know 2 people now shooting Axis in F Class and doing very very well. The FV series is Heavy barrel , so Not Ideal for long hunting trips if a lot of walking is involved. Go the Savage Arms.com and browse by Caliber lookup.
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Old October 14, 2013, 09:02 PM   #13
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If you want the best, that would be a Sako Hunter.
If money is an issue, then Tikka or Savage.
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Old October 15, 2013, 07:47 AM   #14
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I have a Tikka 595 in .223 Rem and it's the most accurate centerfire rifle I've owned, but it's heavy to carry around in the field. I'm considering a Tikka .223 Rem, having one in .243 Win, which also shoots great...without any bedding tinkering.
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Old October 15, 2013, 03:49 PM   #16
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I am leaning toward a Savage with accu trigger and accu stock, what is your thoughts on this ?
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Old October 15, 2013, 05:46 PM   #17
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rebs- great choice. you will not regret it for sure. what model?.
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Old October 16, 2013, 02:20 PM   #18
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Thanks for the input folks. Am leaning towards the CZ due to local availability. All need to think on now is whether to go Varmint or American for the 1:9 twist...
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Old October 18, 2013, 05:40 AM   #19
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what weight bullets are you going to shoot that you want the 9 twist ?

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Old October 20, 2013, 01:15 PM   #20
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Hi Rebs,

63gr Swiss GP90. (Also, more flexibility for hunting rounds)

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Old October 21, 2013, 01:41 PM   #21
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what about the mossberg mvp? if I was an american that would be my first choice (as I would already have a host of ars
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Old October 21, 2013, 02:25 PM   #22
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Hi Husqvarna, as a Brit living in Geneva my choices are somewhat limited

Though a host of ARs would be nice...

In another question, why oh why did Winchester stop the model 70 in .223? Ruger makes a Mauser action in that chambering, why can't Winchester?

(I'm not fussy, I only want exactly what I want )
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Old October 23, 2013, 08:34 AM   #23
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Scrumbag,

I would highly recommend the CZ 527 Varmint with the 1:9 twist.
I have one with the Kevlar stock and it shoots 69 grain Sierra # 1380 bullets with H4895 powder just under 0.5 inches at 100 yards on average for 27 measured groups with a best load average of 0.378. No problem with hunting with the CZ. It is light and easily carried, even with the varmint barrel.

It shoots 40 grain Noslers BT to an average of 0.298 over 15 groups and 52 grain Sierra Match Kings to an average of 0.383 over 72 groups with a best load average of 0.201. Both were with Vihta Vuori N133 powder that you should be able to get in Europe pretty easily.

My son has a Savage 10 FCP-K in .223 that shoots just about the same way.
It is quite a bit heavier than the CZ, but then it is intended as a law enforcement rifle and has a 26 inch barrel with its flash hider.

No problem with either a CZ or a Savage from my experience.
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Old October 23, 2013, 08:44 AM   #24
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Thanks Rimfire5! I've finally found a place with both the 527 in American and Varmint Configurations so I shall go and have a play later on this week and probably come home with one of them.

(I must admit though, at just over 7lbs the varmint is hardly a heavyweight)

Already got the scope I'm going to use so itching to find a rifle for it!

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Old October 23, 2013, 12:14 PM   #25
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I am leaning toward a Savage with accu trigger and accu stock, what is your thoughts on this ?
The Savage gets my vote, even though it's not a Mauser action.

As for the Accu-Stock I have no first hand experience with it so I'm of no help on that one.

I've been thinking real hard about another 223 rifle and the Savage (catalog # 19126) is at the head of pack in my choice.

For the OP's needs the Savage (catalog # 18886) may be the best choice, it's second on my list.

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