Just when things were starting to shape up....

hooligan1 · September 25, 2013, 12:27 PM

I'm almost done with moving a thirty years of accumilation as a married man.. Just got my bench set up, got my rifles moved safely from old house to new, and have been working extended hours on two large commercial sites when the worst thing that could of happened to me did....
I was drilling a 2 9/16" hole through a double plate of pine when my "Hole Hawg" drill hung up in a knot twisting my wrist into a pretzel, Now surgery will be required on my trigger hand,

, It's sore as hell and wont get better until Orthopedic surgeon re attaches two large bones in my hand. I'm almost sick because I had huge plans of hunting with my Hunter certified youngest son..
Might just have to suck it up and be a spectator this season...
As a side note: The Dr. let me know that after rehab, there will be no flexibility in my wrist but my fingers will bend and strength should come back..

precision_shooter · September 25, 2013, 12:32 PM

Wow, bummer!

I need rotator cuff repair surgery in both my shoulders, have for a while now, and I keep delaying having it done because I won't be able to shoot, hunt, fish, or a lot of other things I enjoy for several months after...

Hope everything turns out good for you.

Dave P · September 25, 2013, 01:06 PM

that sux! Learn to shoot lefty??

taylorce1 · September 25, 2013, 01:07 PM

Wow! Prayers for a speedy recovery are sent.

Might have to learn how to shoot left handed until your hand heals up again.

Brian Pfleuger · September 25, 2013, 01:34 PM

Ah! Suck city. Sorry to hear that, brother. Prayers sent.

603Country · September 25, 2013, 02:31 PM

hooligan, that's terrible. Really bad timing. Like somebody else said, can you shoot left handed?

Precision shooter, I've had the right rotator cuff done and it was an ugly experience. If yours isn't really a bad mess and they can just do the scope job, you'll be back in action soon. Mine was bad, with reattachment to the bone, and I don't think I have words that will adequately describe how bad the pain and rehab was. I hope they can scope you. And I should mention that I HAD to learn to live left handed for a couple of months. Using my left for tooth brushing or shaving was a lot tougher than a fellow would think. And....and...if you do both shoulders, I sure hope you have a loving wife, cause even peeing will require SOMEBODY's hand involved. And then there's some other stuff that will require help. Yuck.

tynman · September 25, 2013, 02:42 PM

Sorry to hear... Hope you get better soon.

AllenJ · September 25, 2013, 03:04 PM

Very sorry to hear that Hooligan, know it means more to be able to hunt with your youngest rather than just go with him. I hope all works out.

skoro · September 25, 2013, 03:28 PM

Here's to a quick and complete recovery.

Don't let it get in the way of your planned father/son hunt, though. Spectating one season might give you an opportunity to see things in the field from a different perspective.

precision_shooter · September 25, 2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Precision shooter, I've had the right rotator cuff done and it was an ugly experience. If yours isn't really a bad mess and they can just do the scope job, you'll be back in action soon. Mine was bad, with reattachment to the bone, and I don't think I have words that will adequately describe how bad the pain and rehab was. I hope they can scope you. And I should mention that I HAD to learn to live left handed for a couple of months. Using my left for tooth brushing or shaving was a lot tougher than a fellow would think. And....and...if you do both shoulders, I sure hope you have a loving wife, cause even peeing will require SOMEBODY's hand involved. And then there's some other stuff that will require help. Yuck.

HAHAHAHA!

I definitely would not have them both done at the same time. Left shoulder should be able to be done via scope, they hope, right shoulder is the more invasive method with more damage...
I haven't really kept score, but I would guess my right shoulder has been dislocated 15-20 times and left shoulder 5-7...

It would be nice for my shoulders to not dislocate periodically. I've been woken up in the night from my shoulder dislocating in my sleep - sleep on my stomach with arm under pillow. I just now know the limitations of what I can and can't do anymore. No volleyball or swinging my hands hard over my head, no pull ups or lifting anything heavy over my head with my arms extended out in front of my body, can't ride ATV's anymore, basically anything that puts a lot of torque on my shoulders. I've been able to successfully reset the dislocations every time they happen, but still hurts like a SOB.

BIG P · September 26, 2013, 06:10 AM

Dawg gone man bad rap. Hope u get better real soon.U know what they say its hard to keep a good man down. Youll be up in know time best of luck to ya.I dont think u can leave your rifle in the safe all winter noway.

stubbicatt · September 26, 2013, 06:25 AM

So sorry man. Not only does this injury impact your beloved shooting sports but it probably affects your ability to perform your trade as well.

I hope you recover fully so that you may return to work and you may return to shooting as well.

Eppie · September 26, 2013, 03:32 PM

Best wishes for a speedy recovery, and I'll pray for patience (for you) while I'm at it.

madmo44mag · September 26, 2013, 04:37 PM

I can appreciate your pain.
Back in the 90's I had a 100lb door fall across my right hand and cut all the tendons and ligaments.
Surgery and a very long recovery.
Even now I hold a pistol a little cocked and have my sights jacked over to the right to compensate.
The good thing that came out of it was I was forced to shoot left handed.
I got to the point that I could shoot better left handed than right handed because my dominate eye was my left eye.
Shooting a bolt action rifle was bit of a pain but I learned how to shoot it and now feel I am a better shot because of the injury.

hooligan1 · September 27, 2013, 09:21 AM

Wow thanks fellas. I have practiced with my rifles from various positions, and one is shooting left handed.. The practice of "switch shooting" is a hard row to hoe. It's training my left index finger and left eye training that has been tough through the years but it's no stranger to me, I have squirrel hunted from the age of 12 to 28 pretty regularly (when I lived down in southern Missouri) and found myself sniping those dudes from Every conceivible position possible, and that has helped me with weird shots at deer that required a lefthand shot...

So I'm training my left eye on crosshair engagement as well as boltwork...
It's just another hurdle, and the hunt with my youngest is looking and feeling like a "one gun" affair, that he'll be carrying... I focus on him scoring his deer, I've killed 55-60 deer, so he'll get my undivided attention for sure... Unless I can, from a standing position, aquire proper sight and trigger finger aquisition 10 out of 10 in the bull, which is about a 2" bull on the targets at my hometown range.....

hooligan1 · January 16, 2014, 04:09 PM

Just a little update: Had surgery on the 9th, doctor sent me back to work on 13th, its still painfull and not really sure where ill end up.
Mostly it's stiff and I find myself trying to move it around in circles, up down side to side. And sunday here is supposed to be 60 degrees, let me tell you Im heading to the range, setting up my new chronograph and testing not less than four different loads for my .270...

The surgeon could only repair this latest injury because workmans comp wont let him fix the old sum--tch.
Anyway just wanted to update....

Dc777 · January 16, 2014, 05:02 PM

Best of luck bud

globemaster3 · January 16, 2014, 10:10 PM

Wow hooligan, I somehow missed the original thread last fall!

Do they have you doing physical therapy to work on strengthening and range of motion?

hooligan1 · January 17, 2014, 06:23 AM

Not yet Globemaster, the surgeon told me and my wife that my wrist is so bad from previous injuries that to completely make it pain free, he will need to fuse a steel plate across the top of my hand to my arm bones and lock my wrist at 35degrees... I thimk i can take the pain as I have since I climbed trees for a living.
Im givin it a therapy work out by just bein the hard worker I have always been.. And I do a strict regiment of 12 oz curls..

hooligan1 · January 19, 2014, 06:17 PM

I made it to the range and set up my chrono. Its quite cool to use one of those dudes.
I shot five rounds of four different bullet powder combos. Also i tested a brand new bullet powder combo featuring the 130 grn partition and H 4831sc... And I only tested one powder weight 57.5 grains, I think Im on to something already, maybe a tweak to coal, and itll be a sub moa load, maybe better.

The wrist didnt bother me the whole time... Thank God!!!!

cecILL · January 20, 2014, 09:37 AM

Sorry to hear about your wrist, pain is a terrible thing. This may be a little late, but when drilling tough materials, use the left hand. When the bit catches, the drill will twist out of your hand.

hooligan1 · January 20, 2014, 07:17 PM

cecILL i tried
that once, lost a front tooth, but thanx for the idea.

reynolds357 · January 20, 2014, 08:21 PM

Hooligan, the 12oz. curls should cure the pain anyway.

I do not drill much wood, but I do drill a lot of stone. I had to brake down and switch hammer drills to the newer design with clutches in them. They are a tad bit slower, but a heck of a lot safer.

Againstthewind · January 20, 2014, 10:33 PM

Sorry to hear about the accident, but glad recovery is on the way. Hopefully everything works out for the fall.

Those hole hawgs are dangerous. I lucky don't have to use one very often. Instead of saying I am ambidextrous I think neither handed fits me better. One wrist will get tired and worn out using it one way so I switch and end up with both hurting with those dang things.

I shoot left handed. I have tried shooting right handed but haven't had much luck and gave up on that. It just feels too weird. I think it is harder to train the not dominant eye than people realize. I tried out a left-handed bolt rifle and that felt weird, too.

DannyB1954 · January 20, 2014, 11:17 PM

The good news is there is an indication that learning to do things a new way is good for the grey matter. I was once at a wedding reception with a 95 year old Chinese man. He was sharper than I was. He said stop growing, start dying. That was at least 30 years ago. I guess he made an impression on me OK.

I do have sympathy to your situation. (I was off work for 3 months with sciatic back pain.) I hope you fully recover as I have. Happy learning in the mean time.

September 25, 2013, 12:27 PM	#1
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Just when things were starting to shape up.... I'm almost done with moving a thirty years of accumilation as a married man.. Just got my bench set up, got my rifles moved safely from old house to new, and have been working extended hours on two large commercial sites when the worst thing that could of happened to me did.... I was drilling a 2 9/16" hole through a double plate of pine when my "Hole Hawg" drill hung up in a knot twisting my wrist into a pretzel, Now surgery will be required on my trigger hand,, It's sore as hell and wont get better until Orthopedic surgeon re attaches two large bones in my hand. I'm almost sick because I had huge plans of hunting with my Hunter certified youngest son.. Might just have to suck it up and be a spectator this season... As a side note: The Dr. let me know that after rehab, there will be no flexibility in my wrist but my fingers will bend and strength should come back.. __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

September 25, 2013, 12:32 PM	#2
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	Wow, bummer! I need rotator cuff repair surgery in both my shoulders, have for a while now, and I keep delaying having it done because I won't be able to shoot, hunt, fish, or a lot of other things I enjoy for several months after... Hope everything turns out good for you. __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776

September 25, 2013, 01:06 PM	#3
Dave P Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 1999 Location: North Florida Posts: 1,346	that sux! Learn to shoot lefty?? __________________ I think this country is screwed.

September 25, 2013, 01:07 PM	#4
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,242	Wow! Prayers for a speedy recovery are sent. Might have to learn how to shoot left handed until your hand heals up again. __________________ NRA Life Member

September 25, 2013, 01:34 PM	#5
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	Ah! Suck city. Sorry to hear that, brother. Prayers sent. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

September 25, 2013, 02:31 PM	#6
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	hooligan, that's terrible. Really bad timing. Like somebody else said, can you shoot left handed? Precision shooter, I've had the right rotator cuff done and it was an ugly experience. If yours isn't really a bad mess and they can just do the scope job, you'll be back in action soon. Mine was bad, with reattachment to the bone, and I don't think I have words that will adequately describe how bad the pain and rehab was. I hope they can scope you. And I should mention that I HAD to learn to live left handed for a couple of months. Using my left for tooth brushing or shaving was a lot tougher than a fellow would think. And....and...if you do both shoulders, I sure hope you have a loving wife, cause even peeing will require SOMEBODY's hand involved. And then there's some other stuff that will require help. Yuck.

September 25, 2013, 02:42 PM	#7
tynman Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 361	Sorry to hear... Hope you get better soon.

September 25, 2013, 03:04 PM	#8
AllenJ Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,766	Very sorry to hear that Hooligan, know it means more to be able to hunt with your youngest rather than just go with him. I hope all works out.

September 25, 2013, 03:28 PM	#9
skoro Senior Member Join Date: April 30, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,952	Here's to a quick and complete recovery. Don't let it get in the way of your planned father/son hunt, though. Spectating one season might give you an opportunity to see things in the field from a different perspective.

September 26, 2013, 06:10 AM	#11
BIG P Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,679	Dawg gone man bad rap. Hope u get better real soon.U know what they say its hard to keep a good man down. Youll be up in know time best of luck to ya.I dont think u can leave your rifle in the safe all winter noway.

September 26, 2013, 06:25 AM	#12
stubbicatt Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Posts: 1,707	So sorry man. Not only does this injury impact your beloved shooting sports but it probably affects your ability to perform your trade as well. I hope you recover fully so that you may return to work and you may return to shooting as well.

September 26, 2013, 03:32 PM	#13
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 802	Best wishes for a speedy recovery, and I'll pray for patience (for you) while I'm at it. __________________ "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson (An early warning to Obama care)

September 26, 2013, 04:37 PM	#14
madmo44mag Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: Ft.Worth, Texas Posts: 1,522	I can appreciate your pain. Back in the 90's I had a 100lb door fall across my right hand and cut all the tendons and ligaments. Surgery and a very long recovery. Even now I hold a pistol a little cocked and have my sights jacked over to the right to compensate. The good thing that came out of it was I was forced to shoot left handed. I got to the point that I could shoot better left handed than right handed because my dominate eye was my left eye. Shooting a bolt action rifle was bit of a pain but I learned how to shoot it and now feel I am a better shot because of the injury. __________________ Texas - Not just a state but an attitude! For monthly shooting events in DFW visit http://www.meetup.com/TexasGunOwner-DFW

September 27, 2013, 09:21 AM	#15
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Wow thanks fellas. I have practiced with my rifles from various positions, and one is shooting left handed.. The practice of "switch shooting" is a hard row to hoe. It's training my left index finger and left eye training that has been tough through the years but it's no stranger to me, I have squirrel hunted from the age of 12 to 28 pretty regularly (when I lived down in southern Missouri) and found myself sniping those dudes from Every conceivible position possible, and that has helped me with weird shots at deer that required a lefthand shot... So I'm training my left eye on crosshair engagement as well as boltwork... It's just another hurdle, and the hunt with my youngest is looking and feeling like a "one gun" affair, that he'll be carrying... I focus on him scoring his deer, I've killed 55-60 deer, so he'll get my undivided attention for sure... Unless I can, from a standing position, aquire proper sight and trigger finger aquisition 10 out of 10 in the bull, which is about a 2" bull on the targets at my hometown range..... __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 16, 2014, 04:09 PM	#16
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Just a little update: Had surgery on the 9th, doctor sent me back to work on 13th, its still painfull and not really sure where ill end up. Mostly it's stiff and I find myself trying to move it around in circles, up down side to side. And sunday here is supposed to be 60 degrees, let me tell you Im heading to the range, setting up my new chronograph and testing not less than four different loads for my .270... The surgeon could only repair this latest injury because workmans comp wont let him fix the old sum--tch. Anyway just wanted to update.... __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 16, 2014, 05:02 PM	#17
Dc777 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2013 Location: South West, Alabama Posts: 609	Best of luck bud __________________ NRA member Paintings were made to look at, and guns were made to be shot. If you aren't going to use them as they are intended for, get rid of them and buy a Picasso.

January 16, 2014, 10:10 PM	#18
globemaster3 Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2006 Posts: 1,482	Wow hooligan, I somehow missed the original thread last fall! Do they have you doing physical therapy to work on strengthening and range of motion? __________________ NRA Life Member "We have enough gun control. What we need is idiot control."

January 17, 2014, 06:23 AM	#19
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Not yet Globemaster, the surgeon told me and my wife that my wrist is so bad from previous injuries that to completely make it pain free, he will need to fuse a steel plate across the top of my hand to my arm bones and lock my wrist at 35degrees... I thimk i can take the pain as I have since I climbed trees for a living. Im givin it a therapy work out by just bein the hard worker I have always been.. And I do a strict regiment of 12 oz curls.. __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 19, 2014, 06:17 PM	#20
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	I made it to the range and set up my chrono. Its quite cool to use one of those dudes. I shot five rounds of four different bullet powder combos. Also i tested a brand new bullet powder combo featuring the 130 grn partition and H 4831sc... And I only tested one powder weight 57.5 grains, I think Im on to something already, maybe a tweak to coal, and itll be a sub moa load, maybe better. The wrist didnt bother me the whole time... Thank God!!!! __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 20, 2014, 09:37 AM	#21
cecILL Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: central IL Posts: 769	Sorry to hear about your wrist, pain is a terrible thing. This may be a little late, but when drilling tough materials, use the left hand. When the bit catches, the drill will twist out of your hand.

January 20, 2014, 07:17 PM	#22
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	cecILL i tried that once, lost a front tooth, but thanx for the idea. __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 20, 2014, 08:21 PM	#23
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,164	Hooligan, the 12oz. curls should cure the pain anyway. I do not drill much wood, but I do drill a lot of stone. I had to brake down and switch hammer drills to the newer design with clutches in them. They are a tad bit slower, but a heck of a lot safer.

January 20, 2014, 10:33 PM	#24
Againstthewind Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Posts: 60	hole hawgs Sorry to hear about the accident, but glad recovery is on the way. Hopefully everything works out for the fall. Those hole hawgs are dangerous. I lucky don't have to use one very often. Instead of saying I am ambidextrous I think neither handed fits me better. One wrist will get tired and worn out using it one way so I switch and end up with both hurting with those dang things. I shoot left handed. I have tried shooting right handed but haven't had much luck and gave up on that. It just feels too weird. I think it is harder to train the not dominant eye than people realize. I tried out a left-handed bolt rifle and that felt weird, too.

January 20, 2014, 11:17 PM	#25
DannyB1954 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2013 Location: Pahrump Nv USA Posts: 480	The good news is there is an indication that learning to do things a new way is good for the grey matter. I was once at a wedding reception with a 95 year old Chinese man. He was sharper than I was. He said stop growing, start dying. That was at least 30 years ago. I guess he made an impression on me OK. I do have sympathy to your situation. (I was off work for 3 months with sciatic back pain.) I hope you fully recover as I have. Happy learning in the mean time.

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