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Old September 14, 2013, 01:34 AM   #1
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Are the Chiappa 1887s worth looking at?

I'll be honest growing up with the movie T2 has had an effect on me. Now Chiappa offers the 1887 in 12ga for a 1000ish price. For that kinda money are they worth it? Are they a quality firearm? I believe Chiappa imports and rebrands quite a bit of their products so some things are better then others and most of the Chiappa stuff I've come into contact with has left me less then impressed.
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Old September 14, 2013, 08:51 AM   #2
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Venom,

You might like to peruse my review:

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/foru...action-shotgun

And the gun in action (not *all* the videos are of the Chiappa):

http://youtube.com/user/MisterMcHaos/videos

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Old September 15, 2013, 10:53 AM   #3
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So what I gather from your review is it has quite a few faults, but where else are you gonna find a newer model 1887 to play with? Honestly I don't really have much interest in shotguns but I figure this one would be a fun range toy.

Since you use it in competition how is it holding up mechanically? Is there any unusual/accelerated wear?
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Old September 15, 2013, 11:36 AM   #4
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So what I gather from your review is it has quite a few faults
Really, it was just the poor fit of the forend that gave any real trouble. And that was fixed by bit of filing. (But it should *not* have been necessary, of course.)

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but where else are you gonna find a newer model 1887 to play with?
Indeed. We can get the Norinco copies but it seems that they work *if* you are lucky and get a good one.

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Honestly I don't really have much interest in shotguns
At present, that's *all* I have. In the UK, if you want something semi-auto that goes "kerblam!" when fired, then it has to be a shotgun because only .22 RF can be semi-auto.

As it happens, I'm a "manual" kinda guy but I've just bought my first semi-auto shotgun - an Ithaca M51.

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I figure this one would be a fun range toy.
I completely agree! It's a "hoot to shoot". Just don't expect to win any 3-gun competitions with it.

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Since you use it in competition how is it holding up mechanically?
Hmmmm, well, from my username you may be able to deduce that pretty much *anything* falls apart in my hands. (Incidentally, my last three cars have all been Land Rover Defenders. I like big lumps of "iron"...)

I would say that *all* my shotguns have failed in direct proportion to how much I've used them. The Chiappa? Well, pretty good, I suppose. The screws that hold the cartridge guides in and the wooden forends on have a tendancy to undo themselves but I've made a small tool that I use to nip them up before each stage.

As a matter of fact, I had to make a special tool for my M37, too, as the stock used to come loose. In fact all *sorts* of things come loose on the Ithaca. However, Captain Chaos drives his (PSG) guns hard, so I suppose you could say that if I use something on a frequent basis and it's still in one piece, then that's one Hell of a recommendation. (I'd broken the M51 within a couple of hours of buying it *without* getting as far as loading a live round. That said, the M51 is well known for its slide weakness.)

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Is there any unusual/accelerated wear?
Not that I've noticed. The bluing's worn on the back of the hammer, but that's about it.

As I said in the review, have I had problems? Yes. Do I regret buying it? Absolutely *not*!

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Old September 15, 2013, 06:27 PM   #5
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I have been thinking about making an NFA Short Barrel shotgun from one of those. It could be the same length as a super shorty and hold an extra round. Because it holds one in the receiver and one in the chamber in addition to the tube.

some thing like this only about 3 inches shorter.
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Old September 16, 2013, 03:48 AM   #6
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some thing like this only about 3 inches shorter.
One of the peculiarities of UK gun law is that Section.1 shotguns - ie, those held on a FireArms Certificate rather than a ShotGun Certificate - have shorter minimum barrel and over-all length limits, *if* they are double-barrelled, bolt- or lever-action.

However, we wouldn't be allowed to go *quite* as far as *you'd* like to. I think that our limits would be a 12" barrel with an OAL of at least 24".

What you'd like to make sounds fun but you'd need a well slicked action, methinks.

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P.S. If you make such a "toy", I *insists* that you puts up some YouTube video of it being fired.
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