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Old September 4, 2013, 10:14 AM   #1
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Best light weight 20ga. Auto

What's the best light weight 20ga. semi auto that is from the 80's and earlier?
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Old September 4, 2013, 11:00 AM   #2
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You are looking at a Franchi AL 48, very light, just remember the gun operates on the long recoil principle like the Browning A5.
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Old September 4, 2013, 11:22 AM   #3
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I'd do a Remington 1100 they are like a Timex they just keep going and going.
To me long recoil shotguns are noisy, click clank.
More modern I like my Beretta 390 sporting clays gun.
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Old September 4, 2013, 01:07 PM   #4
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Having had both, it was once a toss-up for me between a Franchi AL48 and a Remington 1100 Special Field - but has since resolved into just the AL48, having sold the 1100SF.



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Old September 4, 2013, 01:56 PM   #5
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From the 1980's or earlier......it would have to be one of the Remington's - either the 11-87 or the 1100's....( but they aren't light )....and the 11-87's came around in late 80's.

Personally, I'd much rather have a Benelli ..../ I have their Super Sport model in a 20ga and its only 6.2 lbs with a 28" barrel ( synthetic stock, comfort tech system in it, inertia gun, really easy to clean - drop trigger group out, handles any load I've tried down to 1200 fps with no issues, and its been a good gun / but they've only been around since 2000 or so.../ I have the same model in a 12ga as well, in a 30" barrel, and its only 7.2 lbs....

Changeable screw in chokes are a plus - in any shotgun in my opinion / and soem of the 11-87's have fixed chokes ...and some of them came with changeable screw in chokes.../ I could probably get by with a shotgun choked to a Modified or maybe an Imp Cyclinder....but I would rather have the option to change my chokes as I need for different games, or different game !!
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Old September 4, 2013, 05:07 PM   #6
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...and the 11-87's came around in late 80's.
BigJim, my friend, my guess is 1987.
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Old September 4, 2013, 05:14 PM   #7
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That sounds about right ...( but who remembers anything from 1987 ....) ...not me, at least...or 1997 / or 2007 for that matter....

( and I know what you meant ....the name is 11-87 ) ????
Who knew Remington's marketing dept was that creative ....???
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Old September 5, 2013, 04:07 PM   #8
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Remington 1100...
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Old September 5, 2013, 04:09 PM   #9
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here's my vintage 70's LT-20. A real classic...

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Old September 5, 2013, 07:34 PM   #10
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What about the browning A5 light?
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Old September 5, 2013, 07:46 PM   #11
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LT-20 Special field/Upland, 1100

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here's my vintage 70's LT-20. A real classic...
I'll have to admit that when it comes to shotguns, I am behind the times. However, the best one I have ever owned, is the LT-20 Special field with the shorter barrel and straight stock. I also had the regular one but preferred the Special fieldUpland. I cold carry that one, all day and kill plenty of birds. That is before they all moved to South Dakota. .....



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Old September 7, 2013, 02:51 PM   #12
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Count my vote for the 1100 LT special field
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Old September 8, 2013, 02:38 PM   #13
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A friend of mine has

a Weatherby SA-08 in 20 guage. It isn't as light as my Franchi but is lightweight and gas operated. They are also less expensive than a new Franchi or a new Remington.
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Old September 9, 2013, 11:44 AM   #14
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Re: Best light weight 20ga. Auto

How about an Ithaca model 37 featherlight 20 Ga?

Edit: I didn't see Semi-auto, so how about the model 51?
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Old September 9, 2013, 11:51 AM   #15
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Gearhead I think you mean Ithaca Model 37 UltraLite. Made with a aluminum alloy receiver.
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Old September 9, 2013, 12:38 PM   #16
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Re: Best light weight 20ga. Auto

Yes, either one are pump action though. The ultralight shaves off a few more ounces over the featherlight. I think the model 51 is semi auto.

I have an Ithaca M37 Featherlight 12 Ga, great gun.
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Old September 9, 2013, 04:03 PM   #17
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Both the Franchi and 1100 are time-proven designs. The question then becomes HOW light do you want the gun? The Franchi is the lightest - that can be both a blessing and a curse - ease of carrying for long periods versus light and VERY whippy to swing on target. Unfortunately, there is ALWAYS a compromise in this regard
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Old September 9, 2013, 04:46 PM   #18
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I really like that franchi. I don't want a beretta or Benelli, so how does the following stack up against each other ? Weight, cycle time, recoil, and reliability for dove, rabbit, and squirrel hunting?
Franchi 48
Ithaca 51
A5 light
1100 Lt 20
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Old September 9, 2013, 04:52 PM   #19
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The Ithaca is no longer made
Cycle time is overrated and irrelevant - they shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger
The Franchi has been the same basic design since 1948, the 1100 since about 1963 and the A-5 since God was born - so all are reliable and proven

Go with what FITS and will work for you in your situation

You really should try to shoot these to see what feels best to you before buying
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Old September 9, 2013, 08:39 PM   #20
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How much different is the franchi 48 compared to the A5 light?
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Old September 10, 2013, 11:08 PM   #21
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They are both long recoil action, but the similarity stops there. Franchi is MUCH lighter and has no big hump and is still in production.
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Old September 11, 2013, 01:20 PM   #22
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My 20 gauge AL48 comes in at 5lb.10 oz. add another 5 oz. for five shells.

That's with a 28 inch vent rib barrel, shorter barreled guns will be slightly lighter.
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Old September 11, 2013, 03:41 PM   #23
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Re: Best light weight 20ga. Auto

I am surprised no one has mentioned the A302/303 series?
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Old September 16, 2013, 05:43 PM   #24
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Another vote for the Franchi 48. If anyone has a vent rib barrel to get rid of, let me know. The "bead" on the plain barrels is just goofy.
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Old September 17, 2013, 04:11 PM   #25
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I have a 48AL deluxe 20ga and it is a pleasure to tote & shoot. Might be even nicer to look at with the Circassian walnut . I find it a very able mate to my only other 20ga, a BSS 20 with 26" barrels.
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