The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The North Corral > Curios and Relics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 31, 2013, 07:15 PM   #1
FloridaGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 8, 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
Posts: 175
Purchased first C&R rifle today

Well today I went to the range to shoot. When I finished shooting I noticed that they had a Russian M91/30 Mosin Nagant for sale. They had it priced at $140.95 which to me was a good price. They also had 440 rounds of 7.62x54R ammo for $80.00. I picked up 440 rounds to go with the rifle. When I got home in the box with the rifle was a lot of other stuff. It included a sling and 4 ammo pouches and a bunch of other things that I am not sure what they are.

Now everything in the box is covered with a brown oily fluid. Since this is my first rifle what is this stuff and how do I clean it off of everything?

__________________
Μολὼν λαβέ
FloridaGuy is offline  
Old August 31, 2013, 10:02 PM   #2
Unspoken
Member
 
Join Date: October 12, 2012
Posts: 99
That's cosmoline, an anti-rust preservative. On the metal parts use hoppes 9 and/or gun scrubber with lots of rags and Qtips. To get it out of the stock you can wipe it down with a soapy rag or just put the stock itself in a plastic bag and leave it in the sun, that'll sweat the cosmo out.

Pay special attention to getting all that stuff out of the chamber, receiver, bore and bolt.

You'll need to break down the bolt and wipe each part down. Here's how: http://www.surplusrifle.com/finnishm...mbly/index.asp
__________________
Proverb for Paranoids: The innocence of the Creatures is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master. -T. Pynchon
Unspoken is offline  
Old August 31, 2013, 10:18 PM   #3
Melkiper
Member
 
Join Date: January 13, 2013
Location: Billerica, MA
Posts: 65
Congrats on your first c&r gun! The 91/30 was also my first c&r purchase. What year did you end up getting?
Melkiper is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 02:33 PM   #4
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,200
you got 4 pouches? lucky... both of mine only came with 1.

the brown liquid is called cosmoline. it is very similar to axel grease. it stinks, it's sticky, and it gets on everything but if you are going to store something mechanical for a long period of time it is a great way to keep wood from rotting and metal from rusting.

when it gets hot it liquifies but if it gets really hot it can crystalize so it is common practice to remove it before firing it. I usually completely disassemble the gun, boil all the small parts that will fit in a pot and while those are boiling I use good ole CLP to get it off and out of the reciever and barrel and then oil everything nice and good. I usually just remove surface cosmoline by using a rag with rubbing alcohol and then finishing with a very fine grit sandpaper then finishing with a coat of linseed oil.

congrats... just so you know you just took the first step towards a debilitating addiction. before you know it you'll be wanting a springfield, enfield, mauser, carcano and arisaka....
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 06:54 PM   #5
tobnpr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 1, 2010
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 3,032
Brake cleaner on the metal parts to dissolve the cosmoline. Cheap and effective.
The black garbage bag with the stock in it (w/newspaper)- on the dash of the car in the sun- is a good trick for the wood stock.
__________________
Custom Bent Bolts and Gunstocks for the Mosin-Nagant
www.biggorillagunworks.com
tobnpr is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 07:51 PM   #6
FloridaGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 8, 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
Posts: 175
Melkiper - it is dated 1942 on the barrel. The armory listed on the box just states "State Factory".

I spent several hours today cleaning this gun. I took the gun completely a part and cleaned the small parts in the sonic gun cleaner. The barrel I cleaned with boiling water and then gun scrubber and some hopes 9. Since the gun is now clean I have noticed that a lot of the bluing came off during the cleaning process of the barrel. It is mostly around the muzzle and about 1 -2 inches back. What may have caused this or is it common? I may go and have the barrel re-blued in the future.

Are all C&R guns always covered in cosmoline?

My C&R want list is as follows:
  1. Romanian TTC Tokarev Pistol - 7.62x25 or Yugoslavian M57 TT Tokarev Pistol - 7.62x25
  2. Nagant M1895 Revolver - 7.62x38R caliber
  3. Chinese SKS Rifle - 7.62 x 39
  4. US Model Springfield 1903A3 .30-06 Rifle
__________________
Μολὼν λαβέ
FloridaGuy is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 07:59 PM   #7
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,200
worn finish is fairly normal. some were used quite harshly during the war so they are missing a great deal. this was more than likely not caused by the cleaning, it's more likely just hidden by cosmoline until it's gone then it stands out more. a tube of perma blue should be good enough to keep heavy rust form forming in the mean time.

yes they are put in cosmoline for long storage periods. if you buy third party then it's less likely to have it.

after the mosin nagant the springfield will feel like the role royce of battle rifles

as for identifying it, does it have a triangle with an arrow inside or a star with an arrow in it? star is tula, triangle is izhevsk.
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 08:20 PM   #8
FloridaGuy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 8, 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL
Posts: 175
tahunua001,

It has a triangle with an arrow in it.
__________________
Μολὼν λαβέ
FloridaGuy is offline  
Old September 1, 2013, 09:10 PM   #9
tahunua001
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 6,200
congratulations you are the proud owner of a new to you 1942 Izhevsk model 91/30
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar.
I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein
You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin
Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.
tahunua001 is offline  
Old September 2, 2013, 10:12 AM   #10
Mike Irwin
Staff
 
Join Date: April 13, 2000
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 36,074
I keep telling myself that I need to get one of those before they finally disappear, but I never do.
__________________
"The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza

Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.
Mike Irwin is offline  
Old September 2, 2013, 02:11 PM   #11
DennisCA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 3, 2012
Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA)
Posts: 302
congrats!

Welcome to the C and R brotherhood!
Now go shoot that sucker (get a recoil pad prior)
DennisCA is offline  
Old September 2, 2013, 02:13 PM   #12
kilimanjaro
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 23, 2009
Posts: 1,939
Welcome to C&R, you're going to enjoy it.

Do get the M44 carbine, you won't regret it.
kilimanjaro is offline  
Old September 2, 2013, 02:22 PM   #13
DennisCA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 3, 2012
Location: Union City CA (a.k.a. Poople's Republik of CA)
Posts: 302
For info on Mosins, go to: 7.62X54r.net
They have a ton of info about da mosin's
DennisCA is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08500 seconds with 7 queries