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Old August 28, 2013, 11:57 PM   #1
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I want bigger!!!!

I know, I know... But its what I want.. The other day, I was out at the range with a few buddies. We had 12 gauge 3.5, 30-06, 300 Win Mag and a 375 H#H mag.

I guess I was just begging for punishment, but I must have sent 20 3.5's out at clays, and a box of 375's down range. we were out of rounds and I was still wanting more. Friends thought I was nuts. lol...

So The Question: What do you think has a good wall-up?
Im in the market for a gun to plink with... I thought about a 50 BMG. But they are really really expensive. So how about one of these:

300 H and H mag
45-120
458 mag
700 Nitro (And I thought the 50 was expensive) $20,000? Right!

I do want to be able to reload it.
Chances are I will not be going to Africa so NO hunting.
Just want to shoot something, get bruised up and let people squeeze and then try to ride it out..

toss out your recommendations too please.....

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Old August 29, 2013, 12:14 AM   #2
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How about something like .300 RUM?
Cases can be a little bit pricey, and they use a lot of powder but it's big, fun and fast.
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Old August 29, 2013, 12:40 AM   #3
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Oh yea. Forgot about that one. Kicks like a mule if I remember right. Never pulled on one before. May Have to look into that one.

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Old August 29, 2013, 12:57 AM   #4
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What about one of the big weatherby mags? 416wby or 460wby should get the job done. If weatherby doesn't tickle your fancy a ruger african in 458lott could be fun.
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Old August 29, 2013, 01:21 AM   #5
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I want bigger!!!!

Most every caliber that you mentioned cost as much to shoot as the .50 BMG.

How about just a .300 win mag with a metal butt plate?
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Old August 29, 2013, 04:08 AM   #6
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Well...

One of the big 30 cal magnums will be cheapest to reload (30 cal bullets being quite common). Something like a 338 RUM or 340 WBY will kick more.

I remember someone, I think it was KraigWY, using 3/8" copper pipe cut to length to line his .375 bullet mold to make cheap .375 bullets to feed his 375 H&H. You could do the same thing with a 378 WBY which can be loaded much hotter than the older H&H.

Although if you really want recoil, 458 Lott or 460 WBY are the ones most noted for retina detaching recoil.

Plenty of hard kicking rifles out there.

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Old August 29, 2013, 05:49 AM   #7
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If you just want to get the snot kicked out of you on the cheap buy a lightweight 12 and shoot 3.5" lead turkey loads out of it.

For a rifle a lightweight Marlin 45-70 with the hotter loads kicks far out of proportion to the performance you get out the end of the barrel. Can be done fairly inexpensive.
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Old August 29, 2013, 06:08 AM   #8
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Don't underrate the suggestion of a shotgun. I've shot my 12-gage shotgun with 3-inch Brenneke Magnum Black Magic slugs. The recoil is worse than a max-loaded 45-70 even when using a gas operated shotgun with a recoil system. If all you want is recoil, then I'd suggest trying out the shotgun first, as it's relatively inexpensive, before jumping into a large bore rifle.
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Old August 29, 2013, 07:21 AM   #9
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This is nuts. I read every one of these posts, and you all are right on board enabling this poor deluded fellow to hurt himself.

Oh well.
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Old August 29, 2013, 07:49 AM   #10
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Aw, stubbicat, even a masochist deserves his simple pleasures.
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Old August 29, 2013, 08:30 AM   #11
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Come shoot my 416 Rigby, it'll break you of wanting "bigger".

That puppy will make you go hug your 243 Win.
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Old August 29, 2013, 08:45 AM   #12
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My 416 Rigby is a ***** cat to shoot... of course the decelerator pad, & heavy barrel help some...

I agree with the Marlin Guide gun... I have some loads I picked up from a Mag article where the author took it to Africa to shoot cape buffalo ( actually killed 2 with one shot ( to the professional hunters disproval ) shot through both shoulders of a bull, exited & killed the cow standing behind as well...

when I 1st tried these loads in my Guide Gun, by 6-8 shots, I dislodged the factory sights

another option...you could pick up the light weight H&R rifled 12 ga chambered for 3.5" magnum shells... my smaller stature buddy bought one... after the 1st shot, I held up my arm, & stopped his rearward progress about 10ft from where he 1st stood when he pulled the trigger...

another, pick up a 8mm milsurp carbine, with the steel butt plate & straight stock... I sighted in one of these for my FIL many years ago... in the fall, with an army field jacket & sweatshirt on, I still ended up with a very bruised shoulder after 15-20 rounds fired... at least this one would give you a badge of honor for a while after you got done...

the 45-70 can be handloaded hot & reasonably cheaply, the 3.5" magnum slugs aren't cheap, but way, way less than the magnum rifle cartridges listed... but the 8mm milsurp ammo is probably the cheapest route to go...
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Old August 29, 2013, 08:55 AM   #13
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You want recoil? Look no further friend, you've found it...

http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/shotg...dnerturkey.asp

A 10 gauge single shot break open.
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Old August 29, 2013, 09:04 AM   #14
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I'll admit I've never shot "the H&R" 10 ga. but I went to the link, & it's 3 lbs heavier than the 3.5" 12 ga. not sure which would actually "kick" more ???

I did fire my buddies 12 ga. slug gun, & the recoil pad did a good job of taking the pain out ( unlike the steel butt plate 8mm in my previous post, which was actually painful even with a coat on ) but it's close to the most rearward thrust of anything I've shot...
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Old August 29, 2013, 09:27 AM   #15
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A friend of mine had one of those break-open 10ga... didn't kick that bad. My dad's similar 12ga was much, much worse, at less than 1/2 the weight with no pad and maybe 2/3s the area on the stock. That 12 hurt worse with light loads than the 10 did with turkey loads. Worst gun I've ever shot.

Anyway, there are plenty of ways to hurt yourself with recoil. You really should reconsider though. Even if it's "fun" now it won't be fun forever. Recoil can hurt you, for real and permanently. I've never understood the fascination with hard-kicking guns. There aren't many activities where intentionally hurting yourself is considered normal.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:34 AM   #16
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.45-70 with 630 grain pills and a 'warm load' should give you a nice wallop too.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:57 AM   #17
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Loademwell, were you shooting off-hand or from a bench or prone or what?
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Old August 29, 2013, 12:20 PM   #18
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I asked this question once and I found big enough. I shoot a 900gn bullet in my .62 caplock.

Picture at the link.
http://TheFiringLine.com/forums/atta...0&d=1361936719

Left to Right......
.44 mag for scale
.619 900 gn. Custom made mold
440 gn. .575 R.E.À.L. Bullet
150 gn. .308,accu-bond
53 gn. .223 V-max

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Old August 29, 2013, 01:16 PM   #19
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How about a .950? That might do it for you.
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Old August 29, 2013, 01:32 PM   #20
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How about a .950? That might do it for you.
Even if you could find one of the handful of those rifles build, ammo is basically non-existent. But hey with that thing you only need one shot right.

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Old August 29, 2013, 01:42 PM   #21
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If you want recoil, and reasonably economical handloading, here's your answer,....

Get a Ruger No.3 in .45-70.

The gun is very light (about 6lbs), short, came from the factory with a curved steel buttplate, and will handle max handloads of a 350gr @2200fps.

That combination of light gun, masochist's buttplate and heavy handloads should give you all the recoil you need to keep your addiction fed, at a reasonable cost.

Or, you could go for a custom .458Win at 7.5lbs...recommend a replacement stock be available if you go that route,...
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:26 PM   #22
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Anyone remember that "12 ga rifle from hell" thread a few months ago? The OP needs to check that one out.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:34 PM   #23
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Actually, there are some quality .50 BMG's that are a under $5K, and cheap ammo is under $3 per round. They also seem to hold their value like other weapons, and hey, none of us are getting closer to being spring chickens.
As long as you get one with a very effective brake, they are a blast to shoot, particularly hitting items like cinder blocks at 500 yards.
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Old August 29, 2013, 10:47 PM   #24
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20 mm = BIG

If you really want BIG, look in to the Anzio 20mm. Not for the feign of heart (or shoulder), and well under the price of your 700 Nitro:

http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm
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Old August 29, 2013, 11:29 PM   #25
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Haha, showed one of those with a suppressor. I guess at a price more than even some of the highest quality ARs, it probably does a considerable job...wonder if you still need hearing protection, though.
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