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Old September 8, 2013, 07:21 AM   #51
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1) any gauge shot gun..
2) 22 mag.
3) 30-06
4) Would probably be a revolver of some sort. Most likely in .357 Mag.
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Old September 8, 2013, 03:20 PM   #52
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1. 22lr, preferably a Winchester9422.
2. .223, I am lately likeing the Remington 7615.
3. .308, my main one being the Remington 600 Mohawk in a 660 stock, man I love that rifle.
4. I can't really think of anything I would hunt where the .308 would be insufficient, but when the giant's show again, I would take the Garand I'spose.
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Old September 8, 2013, 09:18 PM   #53
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This is what I am working towards:

1.) 22 lr
2.) 6.5 Grendel in AR-15 (hand loaded with 123 grain)
3.) 6.5 Creedmoor (hand loaded with 140 grain)
4.) 264 Winchester Magnum (hand loaded with 160 grain) or 6.5x284 Norma

I love the .264/6.5 family of cartridges.

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Old September 9, 2013, 10:34 AM   #54
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Given the Alaska factor:

A .338 Win/375 H+H class rifle

A .308/30-06 class rifle

These two should be a reasonably matched pair,like both Model 70's.

Because,if you select your loads right,you will have equivalent BC's and velocities.

Both of them will have essentially the same trajectory.

Past those,I suppose it matters most what you like to do.AR,long range,etc.

I could see a 45-70 guidegun for berry picking.

There is a lot to be said for a Garand.I think a 22/32 H+R class handgun and a 44/45 class handgun and a good shotgun come in handy,too.

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Old September 9, 2013, 10:54 AM   #55
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I am a lever gun guy!

.22 Ithaca (my first rifle)
.30-30 Marlin
.45-70 Marlin

Just depends on what I want to hunt, but they're all levers and I'm happy! And as far as range, if my eyes can't make it out clearly without a scope, it's not in my range! A scope just helps placement so my old bones don't have to track for long
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Old September 12, 2013, 10:46 PM   #56
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I could make It with these 4 rifles.

1- CZ 452 in .22lr, Every battery should have a .22 rimfire in It.

2- CZ 527 in 7.62x39, My everyday rifle

3- Win model 70 In .270win. When I need to reach out and touch something big

4- Model 92 lever action in .357mag. 20", For the pure fun of It, makes a good HD rifle to.
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Old September 13, 2013, 04:11 PM   #57
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22lr, 30-06/300win, 338win (340wby, 338fed, 338-06, 338rum), and a 12ga. 22lr for the small critters. 30-06/300win for the med to large guys. Any of the 338's for the larger bruisers. And a 12ga for all of the above.
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Old September 13, 2013, 04:33 PM   #58
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I agree with NWPilgrim for a budget battery
.22 LR
There are some GREAT deals on both of these on line, and at LGS's.
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Old September 13, 2013, 07:58 PM   #59
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IMO, any battery that's built for killing game does not need a .22RF if it has a SG. That being said, my choices would be my Valmet combination in 12ga & .308. This also works for most medium game as well. I'd opt for a .270 WSM as my long range rifle, a .35 Whelen for anything the .308 might be a tad light for and a 9.3x74R for anything that would want to cause me as much harm as I wanted to cause them.
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Old September 14, 2013, 09:22 PM   #60
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Four Basic choices to cover NA w/Alaska in the mix:

.22 LR w/scope Bolt or semi auto
.223 Rem AR or maybe a bolt (I do like the AR for a SHTF)

.260 to .30 for the middle of the bunch stuff bolt w/scope my fav is a Rem 700 in 7mm RM (I actually cover this "spot" with three, .257R, 7mmRM and a .308) but there isn't one "perfect" pick, (some are a little much and some are a little short on one game or another) so this is a tough pick and a Ford vs Chevy kind of can't go wrong with a lot of the calibers in this slot I just believe that a 7mmRM will do more YMMV

At this end for one pick it has to be a .375 H&H but a .338WM, a .338-06, a .35Whelan all can work her as can a .45-70 And, my preference is a controlled feed Win 70 or Mauser cuz critters in this group see me as food...LOL.

Now, add a .357 or .44 or .45 revolver, a .22 handgun or some type, a .20ga and a .12 ga shotgun and you are getting somewhere near the essentials needed. You can build onto that...
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Old September 14, 2013, 09:34 PM   #61
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12 gage pump w/slug barrel
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Old September 15, 2013, 01:38 PM   #62
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Properly loaded the 30-06 will outperform.....45-70 on game.
On what planet? Sorry but speed can't make up for diameter and weight. There are plain few standard cartridges that can compete with the .45-70 within its effective range. A good 420gr LBT will fully penetrate any critter in North America. I'm always amazed at what the .30-06 true believers will post about their favorite cartridge.
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Old September 15, 2013, 01:50 PM   #63
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I shoot both a 06 and a 45 70. most people do not spend enough time shooting a 45 70 at different ranges to know its trajectory. with out good field marksmanship skill in range estimation and the corresponding bullet drop you are gonna be in trouble.
..... so as in what planet? any planet that has gravity. bobn
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Old September 15, 2013, 02:04 PM   #64
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(1) .22 magnum....I keep one loaded above the front door for armadillos, fox, coyote, skunk, groundhog, bobcat, possum, and any other critter that needs shooting.

(2) .223 Remington bolt-action....longer range varmint gun.

(3) .270 current deer favorite.

(4) If I get to choose four....I just won't stop....though it'd likely be a .22LR, though since getting hooked on the .22 mag, I seldom shoot the LR any more.
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Old September 15, 2013, 02:27 PM   #65
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Hummmmmm 3 for Alaska. Gee, I have those. 22lr, 300WM, 378WBY. Oh about birds.........add a 12 guage please.
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Old September 15, 2013, 03:39 PM   #66
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I shoot both a 06 and a 45 70. most people do not spend enough time shooting a 45 70 at different ranges to know its trajectory. with out good field marksmanship skill in range estimation and the corresponding bullet drop you are gonna be in trouble.
..... so as in what planet? any planet that has gravity. bobn
Nobody with half a brain will argue trajectory but the statement made had nothing to do with trajectory. I also stipulated "within its range". Apparently reading comprehension is a lost art.
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Old September 15, 2013, 04:35 PM   #67
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OK, I'll play:

1) CZ .22lr - Bunnies for the pot
2) CZ .223 - Keep the 'yotes and wolves off your stock (or your farmer buddy's)
3) CZ .30-06 - Deer sized game
4) CZ .375 H&H - Moose, Bear etc

Why so many CZs?

Reliable, accurate, lots of accessories
Put 'scopes with same kind of reticule on all of them
Same manual of arms for each
A lot of value in CZ firearms


1)Mossberg 535 with 26" barrel with multi-chokes, slug barrel perhaps (very flexible system)

2) Quick release mount for the .375's 'scope (Dangerous game in the thick stuff, irons are just faster)

3) Suppress the .22lr for some really quiet varminting

Finally - drop the AR idea and quit messing around with lever actions. Get serious.

Now, where is my helmet...?



(PS, you might be able to do the same with Ruger as opposed to CZ if that floats your boat)
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Old September 15, 2013, 05:00 PM   #68
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I could take care of all my hunting and defensive needs with 3 rifles:

AR-15 in 5.56 (or if you want to sort of cheat, throw in a .300 Blackout or 7.62x39 upper for hunting).
Semi-Auto .308 (I'd go with a SCAR)

Unless you're going for Elk, Moose, Bear or the Chupacabra, a .308 is plenty of power. Especially here in TX.

If I had to pick a Zombocalypse survival kit, I'd say throw in a shotgun and a Glock 20 in 10mm on top of these 3 and I'd have a gun for every purpose.
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Old September 15, 2013, 07:34 PM   #69
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I subsisted with a .22LR Rifle, 12 gauge pump shotgun, and .30-06 bolt-action for several years. That should handle most every need you have for the time being.

We hunted woodchucks to deer with the '06. With the right loads, it will kill everything in North America. We shot everything smaller with the .22 LR and learned to shoot very well with it. The 12 gauge is for birds, ducks, geese, and for close-up bear, with proper loads for each.
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Old September 15, 2013, 07:52 PM   #70
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OP said rifles, so I am not considering shotguns and pistols.

1. Ruger 10/22 in .22LR
2. AR-15, 18" barrel, .223 Wylde (If I can game the question, I also have a 16" upper, a 24" .204 upper, a 10" 300 BO and a .450 BM upper)
3. Custom built .260 Rem on a Rem 700, excellent glass and some $ in the chassis and bi-pod too.
4. Weatherby .338-06

Only 3, delete #3. If I could only have two, I would probably go with the 18" .223 and a medium weight .308 bolt gun. Only one, probably an AR-10 in .308.
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Old September 19, 2013, 10:46 AM   #71
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Your original post stated you would forego the 22LR and start with .223, so let's start there. All can be done on standard Mauser or M70 actions.
1. .223
2. .243
3. 7x57
4. 9.3x62
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Old October 9, 2013, 08:28 AM   #72
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I am excluding shotguns and handguns too. I would have to approach it from the standpoint of if I could only keep four of my rifles they would be:
CZ 512 .22 WMR
Savage .243 with AccuStock and AccuTrigger
CZ 550 American 6.5x55
Remington 700 ADL .270

On another day it might be my DPMS A3 Classic for the .243 or my Vanguard S2 30-06 for the .270.
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Old October 9, 2013, 08:51 AM   #73
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22LR for small tasty critters. I like a Marlin 60
12gr for flying tasty gritters. Mossberg
6.5x55 for hoofed critters. Tikka T3
375 H&H for dangerous critters. CZ

Yes there are much larger and more powerful big guns then the 375 H&H but I prefer something that won't break my bones too. The 6.5x55 has world class credentials as a highly versatile rifle, from rabbit to elk it does it all, this is especially true for us handloaders.
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Old October 9, 2013, 09:11 AM   #74
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12 gauge pump...from shot to slug, nothing is more versatile
...if it flies, climbs, walks or runs, its mine

if I can have 2, the next would be a precision 22lr with a 2 x 7 scope
...for food under 35 pounds

bless me with a 3rd, i'd have a bolt 30-06 topped with a 4 x 12
...reach out and touch something -- feed or protect the group
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Old October 9, 2013, 09:46 AM   #75
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Minimum battery for anything in the United States on a limited budget? The last time I checked years ago, the cost for a week of brown bear hunting on Kodiak Island was $12,000, the same for a sheep hunt in the Brooks Range. Western big game hunts for out of state hunters are not cheap either. If you're on a limited budget, you might as well concentrate on what is locally available. Sure, you can hunt 90-pound whitetails in Virginia with a 300 magnum on the chance that you might get to go to Alaska the next year, but you're kidding yourself. When you can afford the guided hunt, you can afford the rifle you need for it.
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