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Old August 20, 2013, 08:14 PM   #1
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Which are the low twist .223 bolt rifles?

Hi. Which 223 bolts are the ones with 1:9 or lower twist rates? Thank you.
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Old August 20, 2013, 08:24 PM   #2
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Which are the low twist .223 bolt rifles?

Do research.
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Old August 20, 2013, 08:33 PM   #3
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savage, rugers, late rems are all 1 and 9. the only one and 12 available today is the howa gun. it mimics the twist in the older 222 rem.
....of course custom or replacement barrel can be had in anything you desire. whatcha thinking you would like? bobn
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Old August 20, 2013, 08:35 PM   #4
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RipNBst: What you have never asked a question here before? Thanks pal.

FWIW I was looking on gunbroker and armslist for them and honestly I thought it easier to ask a painless question than to look up each and every rifles specs.
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Old August 21, 2013, 04:55 AM   #5
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savage, rugers, late rems are all 1 and 9
Rugers have only been 1:9 for the last few years. I'm not sure what year they switched but I have a 1994 model M77 MKII target that is 1:12

Just go to each manufacturers website and look. Just find the .223 chambering and they should also list the twist rate somewhere near there
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Old August 21, 2013, 04:55 AM   #6
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when a question is asked on a forum, if you don't know the answer just don't reply to the question. After all the forums are here for discussion and asking questions, right ?
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Old August 21, 2013, 05:06 AM   #7
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Old August 21, 2013, 06:20 AM   #8
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Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 come in either 1:12 or 1:14 depending on model. Check their website for details.
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Old August 21, 2013, 07:01 AM   #9
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Marlin X7VH in .223, heavy barrel, 1:9 twist. Hard to beat for around $330.
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Old August 21, 2013, 08:37 AM   #10
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Old August 21, 2013, 08:49 AM   #11
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my older Remy 700 has a 1 in 12 twist... very accurate with 50 grain bullets...
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Old August 21, 2013, 09:11 PM   #12
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Which are the low twist .223 bolt rifles?

I realize I look like a jerk with my comment but it chaps my rear when instead of doing a little research, as easy as that is to do today, people just ask to be spoon fed information. I'd like to hazard a guess as to the OP's age but won't go there.

A quick google search I did myself yielded the article linked below that provides the OP several answers.

http://gunsmagazine.com/the-223-may-...valuable-tool/

Continue with the dinner service.
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Old August 21, 2013, 10:07 PM   #13
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Why can't you just let the OP ask a question about rifling? He'll probably get good info on this forum and get it quick. I often see questions being asked that I think are a bit silly or that have been answered dozens of times, and I don't see it as my place to grump at them (not very often anyway).
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Old August 22, 2013, 09:59 AM   #14
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I realize I look like a jerk with my comment but it chaps my rear when instead of doing a little research, as easy as that is to do today, people just ask to be spoon fed information. I'd like to hazard a guess as to the OP's age but won't go there.
Without knowing the skill level or the time available to the OP, I don't think it is appropriate to bash someone that asks a simple question.
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Old August 22, 2013, 04:37 PM   #15
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Which 223 bolts are the ones with 1:9 or lower twist rates? Thank you.
What do you mean by "lower twist rates" A 1:7 is a lower number, but it twists the bullet faster. A 1:12 is a higher number, but is a slower twist. Generally speaking lower numbers, meaning faster twist shoot heavier bullets better. Most AR's are 1:7, 1:8, or 1:9 and are meant for 55 gr and up bullets. Most bolt rifles are 1:12 or similar and don't shoot well with bullets heavier than about 55 gr.

I assume you are looking for a bolt rifle with a twist simlar to the 1:7 or 1:8 twists common on AR's. If so, I'm not sure. You could consider buying an AR if you want to shoot heavier bullets. Cost isn't than much more for AR's now and they will shoot just as well as most bolt rifles. It might be the easiest way to get a fast twist 223.
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Old August 22, 2013, 05:18 PM   #16
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What do you mean by "lower twist rates" A 1:7 is a lower number, but it twists the bullet faster. A 1:12 is a higher number, but is a slower twist. Generally speaking lower numbers, meaning faster twist shoot heavier bullets better. Most AR's are 1:7, 1:8, or 1:9 and are meant for 55 gr and up bullets. Most bolt rifles are 1:12 or similar and don't shoot well with bullets heavier than about 55 gr.

I assume you are looking for a bolt rifle with a twist simlar to the 1:7 or 1:8 twists common on AR's. If so, I'm not sure. You could consider buying an AR if you want to shoot heavier bullets. Cost isn't than much more for AR's now and they will shoot just as well as most bolt rifles. It might be the easiest way to get a fast twist 223.
Well I wish to shoot long range for my own enjoyment. I already have an AR with 1:9, but I see that more as a survival rifle or maybe Coyote gun. I love the feel of a bolt action and want something I can shoot long range without breaking the bank. Hence the .223. As such, I want to be able to shoot the heaviest .223 I can for distance that has less wind susceptibility.

Also booting the idea around of .243 for the same purpose.
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Old August 22, 2013, 07:38 PM   #17
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The Mossberg MVP has a 1:9 twist and it uses AR mags. The varmint model seems like a really nice rifle for the money. I kinda want one myself

http://mossberg.com/product/rifles-b...2745,2746,2748
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Old August 22, 2013, 07:58 PM   #18
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The Savage model 12 F/TR has a 1:7 twist. Several of the other Savage models have a 1:9. The F/TR is a nice rifle built on the single shot Savage target action but the MSRP is $1425. Not sure how much you're wanting to spend
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Old August 22, 2013, 08:23 PM   #19
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Nice catch jmr40 . I thought he wanted a slower twist and I was going to say a buddy of mine just bought a CZ something , with a 1-12 twist . It's a very nice rifle .

To the OP if you want to shoot longer range accurately . Meaning moa or better , you are not going to save much on ammo if any cus you will need to shoot match grade ammo or reload . Berger has a 73gr .224 match bullet that has a recommended twist of 1-9 or faster . You can shoot 69gr GMM but those are going to cost you a buck a shot give or take a buck .

As for twist rates and rifles . There are all kinds of rifle makers making the 223 with a 1-9 twist . It does seem to be harder to find 1-8 or 1-7 223 bolt guns but I'm sure ther out there . If you can find it and it is with in your budget I'd go with a 1-8 or 1-7 twist for what your asking but the 1-9 will shoot 90% of all factory ammo just fine .
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Old August 22, 2013, 08:24 PM   #20
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Marlin X7VH in .223, heavy barrel, 1:9 twist. Hard to beat for around $330.
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Old August 23, 2013, 07:43 AM   #21
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The CZ 527 Varmint .223 bolt action models have a 1:9 twist.
Most of their others have a 1:12 twist.
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Old August 23, 2013, 09:03 AM   #22
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tikka t3 lite is available 1 in 8
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Old August 23, 2013, 06:06 PM   #23
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All models of Tikka T3s in 223 are 1:8 twist.
The Varmint CZs in 223 are 1:9.
Remington 700 SPS Tactical is 1:9, but the Varmint is 1:12.

I really like Tikka rifles, and would certainly give CZ a look also.
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Old August 23, 2013, 07:38 PM   #24
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On my AR I have a 1 in 9, 20 inch chrome Rock River arms barrel which is very accurate.
I have another barrel which is a CMMG 22 inch 1:9 I have never been able to get it to shoot.
I’m looking into a 1:7 so I can shoot 75 gr.
That is the nice thing about AR’s
I know you’re asking about bolt but I have been trying multiple on AR’s and they can be different just due to make of barrel with the same twist.
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Old August 25, 2013, 05:13 AM   #25
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I have a CZ 527 American in .223 which is a 1 in 12 twist rate. Nice shooting rifle.
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