The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > The Smithy

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old July 30, 2013, 04:41 PM   #1
tobnpr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 1, 2010
Location: Tampa Bay
Posts: 2,842
Drill press milling vise?

No room or need for a vertical mill right now (but perhaps down the road), but I could use a decent milling vise for the drill press. Primarily for some light wood milling (stock hardware) and precisely locating drill holes without spending minutes shifting/re-clamping the work.

I have a HF down the street and looked at their model- played with it a bit...and nearly ran screaming. It was as loose as a, well, you know...

Any suggestions that will offer reasonable precision, that won't break the bank?
__________________
Custom Gunstocks for the Mosin-Nagant and Stock Duplication
www.biggorillagunworks.com
tobnpr is offline  
Old July 30, 2013, 05:32 PM   #2
ihctractor
Member
 
Join Date: December 24, 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 65
I have a "Shopfox" branded one that I got at a local industrial supply. It's chinese but is pretty decent for the money and has served me well. I'd also check out "jet" tools. They are also chinese but probably the higher end and usually sold thru industrial supply houses.
ihctractor is offline  
Old August 1, 2013, 12:26 PM   #3
F. Guffey
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 18, 2008
Posts: 2,519
I do not have a shortage of machinist vises, problem for most, 3 of them weigh 80+ lbs. each, that much weight could turn a drill press over and no one wants that much weight on a mill.

F. Guffey
F. Guffey is offline  
Old August 1, 2013, 12:45 PM   #4
F. Guffey
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 18, 2008
Posts: 2,519
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRHM?c...FShp7Aod3CQAPg

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?P...MITEM=505-6700
F. Guffey is offline  
Old August 3, 2013, 02:00 AM   #5
Clark
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 4, 1999
Location: WA, the ever blue state
Posts: 2,817
I have used my mill ~ once a week for the last 10 years.

I have a 1963 Rockwell 21-100 vertical knee mill.

I got it off Ebay.
__________________
The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books."
"Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist.
Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

Last edited by Clark; August 5, 2013 at 01:07 AM. Reason: spellin
Clark is offline  
Old August 4, 2013, 08:51 PM   #6
Wild-Bill
Member
 
Join Date: February 2, 2013
Posts: 83
Check here for a milling vise. http://www.grizzly.com/
Wild-Bill is offline  
Old August 5, 2013, 12:33 AM   #7
Bill DeShivs
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Posts: 7,013
The Harbor Freight milling vise has adjustable gibs. When they put a floor sample together they don't tighten them up.
__________________
Bill DeShivs
www.billdeshivs.com
Bill DeShivs is offline  
Old August 7, 2013, 09:34 PM   #8
James K
Staff
 
Join Date: March 17, 1999
Posts: 19,131
A point against using a drill press vise for very much serious mill work is that a drill press is not made to take sideways pressure. It is made to drill, and its thrust bearing is designed to take straight line pressure. For some light work, a sturdy drill press will work OK, but under extended or heavy use, will wear off center and end up wobbling. A milling machine designed as a milling machine will be a lot better.

Jim
__________________
Jim K
James K is offline  
Old August 7, 2013, 09:47 PM   #9
zxcvbob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 20, 2007
Location: S.E. Minnesota
Posts: 4,124
Quote:
A point against using a drill press vise for very much serious mill work is that a drill press is not made to take sideways pressure. It is made to drill, and its thrust bearing is designed to take straight line pressure. For some light work, a sturdy drill press will work OK, but under extended or heavy use, will wear off center and end up wobbling. A milling machine designed as a milling machine will be a lot better.
Or the chuck will fall off the Morse taper.
__________________
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun"
zxcvbob is offline  
Old August 10, 2013, 05:46 PM   #10
Roughedge
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2011
Location: Monroe,NC
Posts: 330
Instead of using you drill press as a mill why dont you get a mill and use it as a drill press? Avoid the trial and error and get your self a good vise from grainger, I bought two cheap ones just to find out they didnt do the job I wanted so now I use them as a third hand on the bench and my good one on the mill.
__________________
The man that die's with the most stuff win's!
Roughedge is offline  
Old August 10, 2013, 06:17 PM   #11
Dixie Gunsmithing
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 27, 2013
Location: Ohio
Posts: 714
About the most you can mill on a drill press is wood, plastic, and soft aluminum. The chuck will slip on it's taper, which is most likely a Jacobs on that end. Either that, or the Morse taper may slip, but most of the time, it's the Jacobs, as it has a sharper angle. Most drill chucks aren't precisely centered either.

Another problem is the quill size, and the bearings. It is made to drill all right, but general drilling isn't that accurate. To keep it from vibrating, you need the quill all the way up, and locked.

Last, wood, and plastic require a fast cutter speed, so one would be better off using a router. That leaves soft aluminum, but I doubt you will get very accurate cuts on it, as there's generally way more runout in a drill press, and way more vibration.

The above is considering smaller shop drill presses, not the larger industrial versions, which are meant for machine shop applications. The ones from Delta, and others are really too weak to mill with.

Last edited by Dixie Gunsmithing; August 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM.
Dixie Gunsmithing is offline  
Old August 13, 2013, 11:35 AM   #12
BoogieMan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 4, 2012
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,273
Look around for a used machinery dealer, auctions, ebay, craigslist and get a mill. If you find you must use a drill press than get a end mill adapter and dont use the drill chuck. http://www.shars.com/product_categor..._Mill_Adapters
I had a few endmills laying around that had a MT ground right into them. I have since scrapped them because everything here uses a collet (R-8, Cat40, etc..).
Also run the drill press with the quill retracted and locked.
__________________
Concentrated power is not rendered harmless by the good intentions of those who create it.
Milton Freidman
BoogieMan is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09477 seconds with 7 queries