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Old July 30, 2013, 07:19 AM   #1
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Barnes 140 XPB .357

With the current state of supplies, it's order first, ask second, so I'm asking. What is your experience with these bullets? Barnes has loads for only two powders on their website, and I have one, AA#9. Sent them an e-mail regarding H110, and I'll pose that question here also. Shooting a 4" GP-100, and looking for a general purpose round.
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Old July 30, 2013, 11:03 PM   #2
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I don't have answers for you, but I'm staying tuned since I have a box of the same bullets and a 5" GP100...and a pound of H110.
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Old August 1, 2013, 09:49 PM   #3
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Now have 60 expensive copper bullets, AA#9, H110, and load data from Barnes for both. Out of town next week, but as soon as I can I'll put some together and run them over the chrono.
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Old October 30, 2013, 09:26 AM   #4
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Posted this awhile ago and never got back to post my results. With 13.2 gr AA#9 or 16.0 gr H110 I am driving these 140 Barnes XPB at 1,300 from my 4" GP-100. I wonder if anyone else is shooting these? Are they a reasonable alternative to 158 JHP? I'm about out of 158 XTP and nobody seems to have them in stock right now.
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Old October 30, 2013, 08:44 PM   #5
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Was 16.0 gr H110 the max load from Barnes? What COAL are you using, I'm assuming SAAMI max due to the rather long bullet? I suppose I should look.. they probably have cannelures..
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Old October 30, 2013, 09:18 PM   #6
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Here comes ol' Nick recommending a faster powder

I think H-110 is too slow for a 4" bbl. I would only use it in 6" and above applications.

The AA9 would be a good choice, but still a little slow for my liking in a 4" bbl application.

I mean, with this current shortage situation - and powders seem to be the most stubborn - we load what we have.

If you could magically pick a powder, AA5, Power Pistol, or HS-6 would be the first I'd reach for (I happen to have them too).

AA5 if you want a good clean, low flash powder (it's low flash, not because it's treated; it's low flash because it's well suited for a 4" barrel).

HS-6 if you want a "linear" and accurate powder that is very forgiving to work up hot rounds with (my HS-6 125g recipe yields 1315 fps).

Go with Power Pistol if you want maximum velocity - but it's flashy and a bit temperamental if you load it too hot.

With AA9 or H-110, you're gonna get more muzzle blast than velocity.
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Old October 30, 2013, 09:42 PM   #7
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The AA9 would be a good choice, but still a little slow for my liking in a 4" bbl application.
I was thinking AA7. AA9 wouldn't be any better choice than H-110.
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Old October 31, 2013, 08:12 AM   #8
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It appears nobody is shooting these, on this forum at least. No wonder they're in stock. My OAL with Barnes 140s is 1.58. Yes, they have a cannelure. Yes, these are Barnes maximums: AA#9 is listed on their website, and I contacted them for H110 data. FWIW, I get 1,372 avg with Hornady XTP 140s. Regarding faster powders, with both powders, I am getting progressively higher velocities as I increase towards max, so I'm happy with what I have. I recently found a pound of Alliant 300-MP, which is advertised to be the cat's a** for .357. We shall see. I guess I will have to concoct a test (or accept Barnes' claims). Any ideas?
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