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Old July 17, 2013, 07:39 PM   #1
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Help Me Find a EDC CCW

I'm a regular recreational shooter and I CCW most days. I have a couple of guns I CCW, but nothing perfect. I shoot about 100 rounds per month. Starting to shoot some steel with my Glock 21.

I'm looking for:
Trigger - any type is ok, as long as the weight is same on each pull.

Size - I have med size hands. Most guns fit me well. I do prefer a short grip for CCW...to hide on the belt. I tend not to like super small. Something in the range of J frame S&W to 1911 CCO OR maybe G23 max. Thinner is better.

Reliability - I need something with low maint and high reliability.

Caliber - 357 mag, 40 S&W, or 45 ACP
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Old July 17, 2013, 07:52 PM   #2
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Maybe the SA XDs or the Sig RCS would work for you.
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Old July 17, 2013, 07:53 PM   #3
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Something in the range of J frame S&W
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I need something with low maint and high reliability.
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357 mag
http://www.gunsinternational.com/SMI...n_id=100357197

Check, Check and Check.

S&W .357 j-frame pro series, with 3-dot nightsights... nice
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Old July 17, 2013, 08:41 PM   #4
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The J frame is a nice gun but if your going to shoot 357 full power loads do yourself a favor and get a Ruger SP101. The SP is nearly the same size as the J frame and you can shoot full power loads all day long because there built like a tank and the extra weight will greatly help with recoil.

Here's one I got recently and added a set of Badger grips.

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Old July 17, 2013, 08:45 PM   #5
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Take a look at the Kahr CW-40 or 45acp. Or if you prefer all steel the K-40. All of the Kahrs I have ever shot and owned have been super reliable and deadly accurate. I like Kahr's and carry one every now and then, but I really prefer Glock to any carry pistol. I carry a G-33 most of the time summer months, and a G-30 in colder weather. I know some people have but I have never had a Glock malfunction, and I shoot regular and have been carrying for a long time.
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Old July 17, 2013, 08:47 PM   #6
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Sounds like you're looking for a walther PPS. Shoots like a full size. Different size mags with different floor plates/pinky extensions. Is ultra thin. Comes in 9mm or 40.
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Old July 17, 2013, 10:07 PM   #7
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Help Me Find a EDC CCW

Sucks its so hard to find but S&W Shield.

Or, as you've already mentioned CCO 1911. I had one and loved it.
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Old July 17, 2013, 11:51 PM   #8
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Old July 18, 2013, 12:34 AM   #9
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Sounds like you're looking for a walther PPS. Shoots like a full size. Different size mags with different floor plates/pinky extensions. Is ultra thin. Comes in 9mm or 40.
I second this. The PPS is the best subcompact single-stack gun on the market in my opinion. Amazingly low recoil, good trigger, and ridiculously reliable. Of all the other subcompacts on the market, including the Shield and XDs, it shoots the most like a full sized pistol. And I like the hinge-down mag release on a sub-compact; it makes it less likely that you'll accidentally hit the mag release while wearing it in a soft holster like a belly band or an ankle rig.
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Old July 18, 2013, 01:05 AM   #10
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Glock 26 if OWB, Kahr P9 or CW9 if IWB. There are other good ones, but all the good ones are more expensive.
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Old July 18, 2013, 01:07 AM   #11
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Oops sorry I read too fast and missed the caliber caveat.

Endorse the Ruger SP as above. Probably the easiest small .357 to shoot.

Also Glock 27. If you are considering the 23 this is just about as comfortable to shoot, and easier to carry.
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Old July 18, 2013, 06:56 AM   #12
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Another vote to check out the Kahrs, you're not going to find anything much smaller/flatter/lighter.
However, if the Kahrs are too small/light/punishing take a look at the SIG P250 subcompacts. They're very easy to maintain, modular so you can swap grip modules/slides/calibers whenever you like, have a light/smooth DAO-style trigger and are very affordable.
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These aren't 40's, but counter-clockwise from top right are P250compact, P250subcompact, Kahr P380 and Kahr CM9:
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Old July 18, 2013, 07:02 AM   #13
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Bersa has several models in 380 and 9mm that are good for conceal carry.

I carry the Thunder 380.
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Old July 18, 2013, 02:01 PM   #14
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Yet another vote for a Kahr. I have a CW45 and it's a fantastic CCW. It's small, lightweight and carries IWB easily.
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Old July 18, 2013, 02:12 PM   #15
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Might as well stick with what you know. Stay with the Glock, and get a good Holster for it. It's hard to beat a pre-cocked single action trigger like a Glock.
The DA/SA trigger would widen your horizons, but the child-like simplicity of the "safe action" trigger is hard to beat.
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Old July 18, 2013, 02:31 PM   #16
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My input...

For a regular CC pistol, I suggest the .357sig caliber. It's fast(high vel), powerful(high KE level), feeds well(cycles), and offers great marksmanship(accurate).
.357sig sidearms have been in regular use by many sworn LE agencies since the mid-1990s; Texas DPS, US Secret Service, VA State Police, FAMS(air marshals), NM State Police, DE State Police, etc.
For a pistol, Id look at the Glock 23 .40(can convert to .22LR/.357sig/9mm), the SIG P229R in .40 or .357sig(DAK format), the PX4 C(constant action) in .40S&W, the P2000 LEM in .357sig or .40, the M&P Shield in .40S&W, P220R DAK .45acp, the S-A XDm 3.8 in .40(with a added .357sig match grade barrel).

Any of these sidearms can be concealed & serve you well.

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Old July 18, 2013, 03:10 PM   #17
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Kick it old school with a S&W Model 60:



The early models were .38 Special only. Newer ones are .357 with a slightly larger frame and cylinder window.

I like the older ones. They are smaller and only 4-oz heavier than the alloy framed 642, but a lot more pleasant to shoot and very durable.
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Old July 18, 2013, 03:17 PM   #18
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Those model 60 pro series are easy to shoot well, too, but they do have a DA/SA action. I suppose you could bob the hammer for DAO
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Old July 18, 2013, 04:30 PM   #19
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Ruger LCR .357magnum....

If you want a deep carry weapon(pocket/concealed garment/ankle/etc), the Ruger .357magnum LCR is also worth a look.
You can add a XS Big Dot sight or a CT lasergrip/Lasermax Centerfire.
The .38spl is popular but I like the .357magnum format for the extra weight & being able to handle the .357magnum ammunition.
A .38spl +P or +P+ load works best for most CC uses but a 125gr .357magnum JHP or magnum load(DPX, MagSafe, Glaser Silver Safety Slug) as a spare/reload.
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Old July 18, 2013, 05:19 PM   #20
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I was going to suggest the Kahr PM9, which I've carried almost every day for almost 10 years ... but if you want a larger bullet, I recently got a Springer XDs in .45ACP and it is a remarkable firearm ... perfect so far with about 200 rds through it, very accurate at SD distances, low recoil, love the fiber-optic front sight ... only drawback is six round capacity, but I always carry a spare mag so that at least softens the problem ... I just sold a j-frame because I just didn't shoot it well enough and don't have the time for constant practice; aside from a derringer I had for a while, it's the hardest gun I've ever owned to shoot with accuracy ...

Incidently ... have never had a failure of any kind since I took the Kahr out of the box; it's easy to belt carry or pocket carry ... and they make a .40 ..

good luck ...
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Old July 18, 2013, 07:42 PM   #21
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I think an M&P40C might be a good choice for you. I have the 9C and the grip (flat mag base) is shorter than my Shield. Its fairly easy to conceal IWB, too.
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Old July 18, 2013, 07:59 PM   #22
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i know you said .357 and LCR's are nice i ccw a S&W 638-3 and love it . smooth trigger d/a-s/a option is great for trying out different loads at the range. and i think its the mdl. 649 for .357 in ss . HTH
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Old July 18, 2013, 08:14 PM   #23
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I have tried the S&W M&P Shield in 40. It was ok, but I didn't really fall for it. Grip comfort was good.

I have shot a G27, but it was awful for me. Great gun, but recoil caused it to shift in my grip leaving me unable to shoot more than 1 before adjusting my grip.

I liked to CCW 1911's, but my main 1911 is down and I really need to move away from it. I also have 2 other 1911's but neither is quite up to the task. Both need more tuning.

I like my Kahr P40, but was afraid it would fail me as semi's often do!

I also find my S&W 640 to be a go to gun, but only 5 and a slow reload to boot.

I am glad to see my final 2 show up here. That means I should probably invest more time and effort that way instead of thinking there will be a next best!

So I did...I bought a Comp-Tac Spartan for the P40. Should be GTG. That will give me a good IWB, OWB and decent shoulder holster for it. I hope that holster gets here soon. It is hard to carry OWB in this heat!
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Old July 18, 2013, 11:51 PM   #24
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I conceal the Springfield XDS 45 and it's quite nice. I can shoot 3" groups at 25 yards. The recoil is manageable and it's only 0.9" thick.
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Old July 19, 2013, 12:36 AM   #25
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* For myself * I continue to indulge my fetish for 2in RB K frames . To fit your stated criteria , a Ruger SP101 , preferably in 3in if belt/ IWB carried. But I suspect you were intending .357Sig , rather than wheelguns.

There are dozen plus guns that would meet the criteria , and you'd have to fondle & shoot a bunch to decide what suits you.

However , you can work backwards from what you already like and shoot well.. You like .45acp, you like your G21 , but want thinner , and shorter butt. Vola ! Two options. This past weekend I was able to try out a G36 , and was favorably impressed. I own a G29sf , and other than cal , is dimentionally identical the the G30sf in .45acp . The hybred model w/ 36 slide on 30 frame is currently all the rage in gun 'zine writeups and Glock press releases , but I don't find the standard G29/30 slide to be objectionable. So it comes down to slimness of grip vs capacity. The G36 does have a slightly extended mag that holds extra 2rds , and allows the pinkie to fit on the gun. Likewise the G30 will accept G21 mags.
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