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Old November 10, 2015, 01:26 PM   #1
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ME Requires ME Permit in Nat Park! NV Honors SD

The Maine State Police updated their website today on carry in Acadia National Park. They did state you had to have a Maine Permit or a permit they honored to legally carry in Acadia National Park. They are now stating:
“A Maine Permit is REQUIRED.”
So to legally carry in Acadia National Park you would need a Maine Resident or Maine Non-Resident Permit! You can see that Here:
http://www.maine.gov/dps/msp/license...s_permits.html

Nevada is also stating that they will now honor South Dakota. That brings to 24 the number of states Nevada will honor. You can see their listing Here:
http://gsd.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/gsdn...%20%282%29.pdf

The last time Nevada updated their listing they left it at the same URL. Before that they moved it to a new URL. It looks like they are going to leave it in one place now and just put a date in the lower right corner of the page giving the date it was updated.
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Old November 10, 2015, 08:12 PM   #2
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It would be interesting to see the rationale for this.
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Old November 10, 2015, 09:16 PM   #3
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I guess I'll have to get a Maine permit. Acadia is about the only place in Maine I want to visit --okay, maybe Eastport or Lubec, just so I can be the first person in the U.S. to see the sunrise, but mostly Acadia.
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Old November 10, 2015, 11:05 PM   #4
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Don't jump all over me if I'm wrong, but I believe Arizona had a similar problem, but diametrically opposed to the ruling in Maine. In the case of carry in the Grand canyon, it was being prohibited by the Park Service, but it was pointed out that, since GCNP was within the State of Arizona, state statutes trumped Park Service since there was no clear Federal law regarding carry.

Now, it seems to be up to the states to dictate policy, and Maine apparently wants to enforce state concealed carry laws in Acadia, which is in their state. Arizona has no such law as it is a Constitutional concealed carry state.

Anyway that's the only explanation I can think of, and I probably am wrong.
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Old November 12, 2015, 09:07 AM   #5
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Got a call back from the Maine State Police. You have to have a Maine Resident or Non-Resident permit to carry in Arcadia National Park. They are stating it is because of their statutes. (G) would be the reason they are giving. They stated it would take the legislature to fix it.
When I saw “Maine Permit Required” I knew this was the case. Maine has always been very precise in what was required.

§756. Acadia National Park

1. Definitions. As used in this section, unless the context otherwise indicates, the following terms have the following meanings.

A. "Firearm" has the same meaning as in section 10001, subsection 21. [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

B. "Residential dwelling" means a fixed housing structure that either is the principal residence of its occupants or is occupied on a regular and recurring basis by its occupants as an alternate residence or vacation home. [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]
[ 2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW) .]

2. Possession of firearms. A person may not use or possess a firearm in Acadia National Park except:

A. Within a residential dwelling; [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

B. To the extent the firearm is used in connection with hunting when and where authorized by state or federal law; [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

C. Within a mechanical mode of conveyance as long as the firearm is rendered temporarily inoperable or is packed, cased or stored in a manner that prevents its ready use; [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

D. When the firearm is carried by an authorized federal, state or local law enforcement officer in the performance of the officer's official duties; [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

E. When the firearm is a concealed firearm carried by a qualified law enforcement officer pursuant to 18 United States Code, Section 926B. The law enforcement officer must have in the law enforcement officer's possession photographic identification issued by the law enforcement agency by which the person is employed as a law enforcement officer; [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

F. When the firearm is a concealed firearm carried by a qualified retired law enforcement officer pursuant to 18 United States Code, Section 926C. The retired law enforcement officer must have in the retired law enforcement officer's possession:

(1) Photographic identification issued by the law enforcement agency from which the person retired from service as a law enforcement officer that indicates that the person has, not less recently than one year before the date the person is carrying the concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the agency to meet the standards established by the agency for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm; or

(2) Photographic identification issued by the law enforcement agency from which the person retired from service as a law enforcement officer and a certification issued by the state in which the person resides that indicates that the person has, not less recently than one year before the date the person is carrying the concealed firearm, been tested or otherwise found by the state to meet the standards established by the state for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry a firearm of the same type as the concealed firearm; or [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]

G. When the firearm is a concealed firearm carried by a person to whom a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm has been issued as provided in Title 25, chapter 252. The person must have in that person's possession the permit as required in Title 25, section 2003. [2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW).]
[ 2009, c. 607, §1 (NEW) .]
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Old November 25, 2015, 08:08 PM   #6
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Federal law almost always trumps local or state law. When Acadia decided what the status for concealed carry in the park should be--the NPS (Dept of Interior) decided it was a matter of courtesy to defer to the state what that status should be. A National Park does not belong to the state--it belongs to the public of United States. The no-permit required was largely opposed by the police associations but was favored by the state police (which basically bears the oversight burden for the permit program).

Acadia is Maine's crown jewel of tourism dollars--and as a result there are a hodge-podge of laws--so of which make no sense at all to me (I live there--Acadia borders next to my property). Residents in town may freely blast away in their yards with firearms as long as this is done 100 yds from any dwelling (widely ignored, I might add)--but hunting of deer--and only deer--is prohibited on the island.
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