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Old July 5, 2013, 08:51 AM   #26
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30-30 or maybe some pistol caliber carbine in .357mag? marlin 1894 or a ruger 77/357

I use an old destroyer carbine for racoon hunting up to 100 yards, those lillte rifles are pretty accurate and the 9mm largo cartridge should be powerfull enough to take down a coyote.
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Old July 5, 2013, 09:22 AM   #27
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The smallest rifle caliber you have.
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Old July 5, 2013, 09:54 AM   #28
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Coyote round

17 HMR OR 22 MAG Cliff
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Old July 5, 2013, 10:08 AM   #29
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I can NOT recommend anything rimfire, for coyotes. Coyotes are tough customers and can take a lot of punishment/bullets and not die. At that point all you've done is educate it for the next person. Rest assured, you will not see that coyote again, as it may not leave the area, but will become nocturnal.

A centerfire lever action rifle is good for quick follow-up shots, without having to resort to the more expensive semi-auto actions. Shot placement is MOST important, as there are people that have killed coyotes with rimfire rifles...and it can be done, but there's no room for error. Coyotes are not known for offering the best shot angles.

Depending on your wants/needs, you could purchase a Mosin-Nagant 7.62x54R, for about $160 and some soft pointed ammo, which would certainly get the job done. Then you could use the rifle for other large game hunting.

Good luck with your choices!
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Old July 5, 2013, 03:37 PM   #30
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I have a CZ527 in 7.62x39. Great coyote gun, cheap to shoot too.
My neighbor in AZ has a coyote problem once in a while and I'm happy to oblige solving that problem.

If you were looking at longer ranges, I'd suggest a 22-250, but that ammo is not cheap.
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Old July 5, 2013, 07:00 PM   #31
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A .22 Mag, which has the muzzle energy of a .22 LR at 100 yards, is inadequate for a 15 to 46 lb. coyote but a 7.62x54R cartridge and the guns that shoot 'em are about right? How can you write that and expect to be taken seriously!?
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Old July 5, 2013, 07:27 PM   #32
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There is no clear-cut "best" round for coyotes under 100 yards. There's a slew of cartridges that will do the job just fine. Anything more than a .22lr will more than likely cleanly take a coyote at that range with a well placed shot. The "ideal" round IMO would be any center fire cartridge .257 or smaller with a rapid expanding "varmint" bullet lighter than 85 gr or so. But taking coyotes at under 100 yards is not a very hard task, lets not over think this one
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Old July 5, 2013, 10:56 PM   #33
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22MAG,223,OR MY All time dog getter 25-06 love that Red mist.
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Old July 6, 2013, 09:47 AM   #34
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I can NOT recommend anything rimfire, for coyotes. Coyotes are tough customers and can take a lot of punishment/bullets and not die. At that point all you've done is educate it for the next person. Rest assured, you will not see that coyote again, as it may not leave the area, but will become nocturnal.
I agree with this all the way, it sure holds true with our coyotes here in Missouri.

While deer hunting one year I shot one with a 280, the bullet entered his chest, blew a exit hole bigger then my fist, stringing his intestines to where he was stepping on them.
He started spinning then took off running, stopped broadside to look at me about 250 yards out, another shot finished the job.

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Old July 6, 2013, 09:55 AM   #35
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Whatever caliber you decide, I think a semi-auto would be the best choice. As a matter of fact, for close-in coyotes an AR should really shine!

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Old July 6, 2013, 10:25 AM   #36
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In my expierence yotes aren't that hard to kill. Your circumstances are crying out for an AR-15 in .223. It is a great dog shooter and good all around weapon.
Loads of fun too!
If the budget can't handle an AR I would recommend a good lever action in 30-30 or handgun caliber.
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Old July 6, 2013, 10:32 AM   #37
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I've used .410 with bird shot as a kid (went out thinking it was a raccoon in the trash when it turned out to be a coyote), 22LR, 22 hornet, 223, 270, 30-30...all the way up to a 300wsm.

If you hit them well, they are going down, regardless of caliber.
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Old July 6, 2013, 02:02 PM   #38
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Best Coyote Round For Under 100 Yards?

To me, that short range would make a 22 magnum just about ideal with the right bullet choice, meaning a soft point rather than a light (30gr) varmint round. The 223 would be a good choice, also. But seems like overkill for so close up.
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Old July 6, 2013, 04:20 PM   #39
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Virtually anything .17HMR/.22Mag or bigger. The .25-20 and .32-20 make wonderful predator cartridges out to at least 150yds.


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I can NOT recommend anything rimfire, for coyotes. Coyotes are tough customers and can take a lot of punishment/bullets and not die.
I've never hit a coyote with a .17HMR or .22Mag that ran more than 20yds. I do not recommend the 17gr loadings for anything bigger than rodents. The 20gr XTP is a much better penetrator and more consistent killer.
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Old July 6, 2013, 04:41 PM   #40
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I like the .223 for this mission.
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Old July 7, 2013, 08:29 AM   #41
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I think the .223 Rem is a great cartridge for coyotes under 300 yards. However, it's not all about cartridge, you need a scope or at least a red-dot sight on whatever you use.

High-velocity .223 CF rounds, using varmint bullets are safer than WMR or .22LR rounds because they turn to dust on impact and don't tend to ricochet.

My son who lives nearby uses a .30-06 for everything from woodchucks and foxes to coyotes, deer and moose. He's deadly with that rifle!

I'm more of a gun nut than he is, having a .22 WMR CZ, a .223 Tikka, two .243 Win (Tikka and Rem), and a .270 Win. Any might do the job, but I tend to take either .243 when looking for coyotes at ranges up to 350 yards, but have shot them with all my CF cartridge rifles. I've used the .22WMR in a pinch within 100 yards, but don't have confidence with it.
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Old July 7, 2013, 09:12 AM   #42
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Thank you all for your replies! Great info shared by all and it has helped me make more informed decisions on this.

I'm currently negotiating with a buddy of mine for a DPMS .223 AR with a red dot scope.
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Old July 7, 2013, 06:42 PM   #43
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TommyP,

Sounds like a good choice and should do what you need it to do.

I have a DPMS with a 1x4 power scope, the dot in the center lights up like a red-dot, it works real well on coyotes.
I did do a trigger job on my DPMS as I felt the factory trigger was terrible, but I'm used to shooting triggers in the 1 to 1.5 lb range.

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Old July 7, 2013, 07:17 PM   #44
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A 223 AR with a red dot is a fine choice. It even gets my pops' approval...so much so, that after shooting mine, he's already gone out shopping for one of his own.

No coyote yesterday, just plinking on some ground squirrels (stupid azz commifornia rules dictate the use of lead free, even for squirrels) and scoping out some of the D-8 zone we used to deer hunt when I was a kid. Figured my dad would like to try out the AR...I was not wrong Squirrels out to 75 yards offhand were easy...and out to 150 yards resting across the hood of the truck:
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Old July 7, 2013, 08:31 PM   #45
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Since a decision has been made, we can give this thread a rest.

If there is success in the endeavor, let us know via a thread in the Hunt forum.
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