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Old May 21, 2013, 11:19 AM   #1
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.45acp revolvers

Want some thoughts from you my fellow wheelies on the best .45acp revolvers out there( both single and double actions) what are the advantages compared to a semi automatic/1911?
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Old May 21, 2013, 11:25 AM   #2
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My vote goes to the Smith&Wesson Model 25-2 (1955 Target). The only advantage it might have over a 1911 pistol is extreme reliability. Also, the sa trigger pull on this revolver is hard to beat and it is accurate in the extreme (as are many 1911 target configured 1911s).
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Old May 21, 2013, 11:27 AM   #3
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I have a S&W 625 JM 4" barrel. SA/DA and I am not aware of a single action 45 acp. Advantage is you pick up 6 pieces of brass at a time. You can have fun lightening up the reloads without worries of a slide not functioning and go to the range with 2 gunms and one ammo
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Old May 21, 2013, 11:37 AM   #4
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Had a 1917 S&W 45 acp, gave to my father on Fathers Day years ago.
Just the nostalgia sold it for me, half moon clips..

In fact, I think that's what I love most about certain firearms, the way they let you travel back in time while you squeeze off a few!
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Old May 21, 2013, 11:41 AM   #5
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Ruger makes single action convertibles in .357/9mm and .45 colt/ACP models. There are you single actions. There have been others, I'm sure. The .45 ACP will do everything a standard pressure .45 colt will do in a revolver for a lot cheaper if you don't reload. The .45 colt can be steroided in appropriate revolvers, but for general purpose, it would be hard to beat a .45 ACP. The only thing I personally wish was made is a 5-shot .45 ACP that didn't come from Brazil. Smith or Ruger would have a great .45 as a 5-shot DA revolver. It would be akin to a CA Bulldog with much more common ammo.
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Old May 21, 2013, 12:29 PM   #6
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I own two S&W .45s, an old Hand Ejector Mk. II coverted from .455, and a modern Model 22. I can see no advantage whatsoever to a .45 ACP revolver when compared to a 1911. I enjoy shooting guns of different types, but if I were doing anything requiring a .45 that didn't limit me to a revolver (competition), I'd choose a 1911 every time.
If I were going to buy a new .45 today, one that appeals to me very much is the Colt New Frontier. I'd want it chambered in .45 Colt, with a spare ACP cylinder. With a 7.5" barrel and a good trigger, I might be able to shoot it more accurately than any of my autos, and that would be an advantage.
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Old May 21, 2013, 01:00 PM   #7
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The advantage, to me, of having a .45 ACP revolver came when I had traded off a Colt Gold Cup .45 and was left with a goodly supply of ACP brass. Too good to discard, I sought a .45 ACP revovler. So I happened to have one Ruger Blackhawk with an ACP cylinder and went from there. Bought a shorter barreled Blackhwk, then a Smith Model 625.

Thje big advantages of a .45 ACP revolver over a .45 Auto is that the empty brass is deposited into the palm of your waiting hand, not scattered all over the ground in a fifty yard radius. (It seemed fifty yards) And the fact that you can, if need be, get some screaming velocities unheard of from an autoloader.

But as my brass supply dwindled, the old .45 Colt really came to the forefront.

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Old May 21, 2013, 01:04 PM   #8
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FWIW, the Colt SAA was made in .45 ACP - 44 of them. I have seen one, but it was a gunsmith job, not one of the 44 originals.

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Old May 21, 2013, 01:47 PM   #9
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How does a rimless cartridge function in a SAA? From what I understand rimless cartridges need moonclips for use in double action revolvers. SAA is a very different animal though.
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Old May 21, 2013, 02:10 PM   #10
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In a SAA cases are individually punched-out by the ejector rod, so no need for a case rim for ejection. The chambers do need to have an auto-pistol style headspacing shoulder for rimless rounds.
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Old May 21, 2013, 02:31 PM   #11
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SAA in .45 ACP? That's an odd beast.
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Old May 21, 2013, 02:36 PM   #12
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I have mulled getting a spare cylinder in 45 ACP for my Uberti/Remington M1875. Yes, an SAA in 45ACP is an odd beast, but in days gone by the factory was more accomodating to special orders.
I have both the Colt and S&W M1917s, the former made in 1917 so it might have gone "Over There", yes, as Skeeter Skelton said, the precious brass can be readily transfered to a pocket or other receptacle.
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Old May 21, 2013, 06:02 PM   #13
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SAA in .45 ACP? That's an odd beast.
And cut the cylinder for .45 Auto Rim too, please.
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Old May 21, 2013, 07:48 PM   #14
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Make you a deal on a 45 ACP smith from 1917. I even have some original half moon clips around here someplace. If you carry it as a daily carry gun you would be the talk of the town.
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Old May 21, 2013, 07:56 PM   #15
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Why would you cut the cylinder of an SA revolver for Auto Rim? .45 AR is a lot harder to come by than .45ACP.

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Old May 21, 2013, 08:00 PM   #16
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I have two of them, a nickel 4" 22-4 and a 5" 625-3. The 625 is a very accurate target gun and the 22 is a fixed sight gun ideal for HD. Both use moon clips, which are very convenient. .45 ACP revolvers are very fun to shoot.
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Old May 22, 2013, 10:54 AM   #17
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Why would you cut the cylinder of an SA revolver for Auto Rim? .45 AR is a lot harder to come by than .45ACP.
Because I've been able to come by both? And using the AR brass for "revolver loads" makes ID easy.
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Old May 22, 2013, 12:14 PM   #18
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Makes sense. There is no reason the cylinder can't be cut for the auto-rim; it is just that the rim is not needed for extraction.

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Old May 22, 2013, 04:23 PM   #19
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In a revolver, the .45 ACP can be loaded with wadcutter type bullets.

I used the 230 grain full wadcutter designed fot the .,45 Colt in ACP cases in my 1917. Of course you can't seat them flush with the case mouth as you do in the longer cases, but they are accurate.
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Old May 22, 2013, 04:33 PM   #20
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What do you do about exposed lube?
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Old May 22, 2013, 04:37 PM   #21
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chewie146 What do you do about exposed lube?
t store them in plastic MTM 100 count boxes.
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Old May 22, 2013, 09:33 PM   #22
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I have about 100 rounds through a 325 Thunder Ranch and it is my favorite handgun to shoot already. My others are a full-size PX4 Beretta .45 and a 6" barrel 686 Plus.

The 4" barrel length and alloy frame makes it extremely well-balanced.

It is shooting a little left out of the box. I did a slight sight adjustment, next time to the range I'm gonna bring my rest and dial in the sights.

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Old May 23, 2013, 09:29 AM   #23
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I used the 230 grain full wadcutter designed fot the .,45 Colt in ACP cases in my 1917. Of course you can't seat them flush with the case mouth as you do in the longer cases, but they are accurate.
Penn Bullets makes a 225 gr. full wadcutter for .45acp, special order. They shoot very nicely for target work, and I think they make a good defensive load with a huge meplat and hefty weight.
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Old May 23, 2013, 09:40 AM   #24
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The new S&W 625 JMs are very good .45 ACP revolvers. Superb triggers and very accurate. The obvious advantage is reliability and of course accuracy when shooting Single Action. Plus, these are just plain fun!

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Old May 23, 2013, 12:35 PM   #25
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The only answer I can give you is...the N-frame Smith & Wesson. Picking a particular model is just personal opinion and the flavor of the day. I regularly shoot these:

This is a customized 1917:


This is a 5" DA 45 Model of 1955:


This is a custom built M25-2 45 ACP "Mountain Gun":


This is the earliest of the 625s, the dash-2 version:


The one I shoot the most is the "Mountain Gun" but I like and shoot them all.

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