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Old May 6, 2013, 06:17 PM   #1
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Pistol Caliber Rifles

Having a rifle that chambers the same ammo as the one used in your sidearm is very practical...

Hi Point Carbines can be purchased in 9mm, 40 cal and 45 cal...

The Kel-Tec Sub2000 is also a great carbine to accompany your Glock 17/19.

To complement your .38/.357 cal handgun I recommend a Marlin or Henry lever action rifle in .357 cal

The best thing about pistol caliber rifles is most indoor ranges allow the guns to be fired in their enclosed ranges.
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Old May 7, 2013, 07:15 AM   #2
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I have a Ruger Blackhawk chambered in .41 Rem Mag as well as a Marlin 1894 FG to go with it.
The Marlin is just the right length for use in my small pop-up blind and the Ruger is sidearm power in case I happen to see Mr. Pig while walking to a relief tree.
Neither are C&R, but the Marlin has been discontinued......again.
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Old May 7, 2013, 09:21 AM   #3
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The best thing about pistol caliber rifles is most indoor ranges allow the guns to be fired in their enclosed ranges.
The major exception I've found is the M1 Carbine. Most ranges prohibit its use.

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Old May 7, 2013, 10:43 AM   #4
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The M 1 carbine is considered to be more of a rifle than a pistol carbine.
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Old May 7, 2013, 12:25 PM   #5
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I have a hi point 995. Comes with a laser & sling. Its fun to crank ur target all the at the end of the indoor range and put 30 rounds in a tiny group. I then slowly bring the target back for all to see. I get about 15 seconds of glory until other shooters realize I did it with a carbine not a handgun Wish I could find some 9mm for a decent price. Talking about it makes me want to go shooting again. Ive been limited to shotguns because that is the only ammo available here...
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Old May 7, 2013, 11:27 PM   #6
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Can't forget about the .45LC and .44Mag. Both pair up nicely. My S&W 629 loves to go out and play with my Ruger Deerfield.
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Old May 8, 2013, 12:09 AM   #7
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Just bought a Rossi Circuit Judge 45LC or 410.Light weight and its a revolver.
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Old May 8, 2013, 02:22 AM   #8
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I must admit, I have been very tempted to get a Beretta CX4 to play with my PX4. I keep looking at them and drooling....and then getting yelled at by the folks at WaMart for getting slobber on the rifle case (again).
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Old May 8, 2013, 03:06 AM   #9
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JimmyR - Thats why you go to the automotive section and get a shammy and set it on the counter and drool on the shammy. When you're done just put the shammy back on the rack lol.
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Old May 8, 2013, 08:10 AM   #10
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When Uncle Joe came out with his Shotgun for Self Defense idea, I got questions about rifle vs shotgun in my Woman's SD class.

We can't use AR's in our indoor range so to demonstrate, I brought a shotgun and my Marlin '94 in 38/357 for the ladies to try.

Needless to say the recoil of the shotgun was a non-starter for most of the ladies in the class, but all liked the Lever Action Rifle.

I could have sold a half dozen right there if I'd had them.

Now that its getting warmer and more day light I'm gonna take them outside with the AR.

But still, I totally agree about the pistol round rifle.
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Old May 8, 2013, 10:11 AM   #11
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Having a rifle that chambers the same ammo as the one used in your sidearm is very practical...
It may be convenient for reloaders or stock piles and may of been practical 150 years ago in the boonies but practical is a stretch. You can only handle one gun at a time, doesn't make a spits worth of difference if any other gun you have fires the same cartridge. When is it even possible to be in a situation where that commonality would be an asset? Not in the field, not at home, not in the car, not at work...........

Not to say that handgun/carbine combo's aren't cool. I love em. But practical went out the window with long term wilderness survival.
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Old May 8, 2013, 10:26 AM   #12
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I think they're plain old fashioned fun.
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Old May 11, 2013, 08:05 AM   #13
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Well, thanks for the information.

I'm not sure how practical it is to have a handgun and a long gun that chamber the same ammo. If my pistol shoots the same ammo as my rifle, why carry the heavier gun? If I am going to carry the bigger and heavier gun, I think I want a more powerful cartridge that justifies doing this.

Having said this, I confess to owning a couple of pistol caliber carbines, but to me they are toys. I see them as fun shooters, not serious rifles.
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Old May 11, 2013, 09:13 AM   #14
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Saxon Pig said " I see them as fun shooters, not serious rifles."

I will have to disagree with you on this, the 45C & 44mag can pick up some serious power and work great for hunting out of a rifle VS a pistol, even the "little" 357 picks up a little more out of a rifle. Plus you have a longer sight radius to help with the longer shots. Also as a reloader it helps me to be able to stock fewer types of powders, bullets and primers.
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Old May 11, 2013, 09:30 AM   #15
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Don't forget the original pistol/rifle combo...

The first picture that came to my mind reading this thread, is a cowboy in the old days walking into the general store & asking for a "box of bullets". He'd walk out with a box of .44-40's good for the pistol on his belt & the rifle on his horse.

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Old May 11, 2013, 11:16 AM   #16
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I have two original Winchester model 92 carbines. The .38-40 has a "mate" in my Colt New Service revolver. The other, a .32-20, has no mate. (Yet) Both of these calibers reqiure hand loading if there is to be any appreciable amount of shooting.

I recently accquired a 9MM Sterling carbine. (Wiselite mfg) Although a bit crude compared to the superb British SMG version, it sees quite a bit of use along with my SIG-Sauer pistols.

If I could find one ot the recently manufactured Browning 92 copies, at a reasonable price in .44 Magnum I would probably purchsase it.
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Old May 11, 2013, 12:02 PM   #17
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Pistol rounds out of a rifle barrel have never been more practical than now. Very polite... hunting weapon of choice when you don't want to scare the milk out of the farmer's cows.... or for defense scenario when you don't want to fire the shot heard around the world.... more usable range than a pistol... kiddie level recoil.... extended fun at the range while waiting for your real rifle to cool down.... everyone should have a few....
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Old May 11, 2013, 01:03 PM   #18
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Re: Pistol Caliber Rifles

I have an 1894c in. 357 and a Rossi 92 in .45 Colt. They both pick up about 400-500 fps over the 4.5-5.5" Blackhawk they pair with depending on the load.

That is a significant jump in power and a properly loaded .45 Colt levergun can outshine a .30-30 rather easily. A properly loaded .357 levergun is touching the bottom-middle range of .30-30 power.

They are still quite practical and effective.
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Old May 11, 2013, 10:33 PM   #19
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Tom Matiska,

That is a well thought out post, sir. And quite accurate.
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Old May 12, 2013, 12:08 AM   #20
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I personally think that a 357 mag lever gun is as practical if not more so than a 223 carbine for civilians unless extended ranges are needed. 9mm, 40 and 45 get much less of a boost but still are much easier to hit with than from a handgun. While 41, 44 mag etc are very effective from rifles, the 357 is by far the most flexible round in rifles because they will also fire 38 special.
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Old May 12, 2013, 07:00 AM   #21
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OT, but i would like to meet a real old time cowboy who threw his revolver at a enemy when he just shot all six shots,. maybe use it as a club but why throw it? just about all the old westerns show this in there films. eastbank.
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Old May 12, 2013, 07:25 AM   #22
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CX Storm

Last year I consolidated calibers to 45ACP. All SIG P220s/1911s and a SW325. As a HD I purchased a CX Storm in 45 ACP. Other than the limited mag capacity, its a great compliment to the others. Shoots great, accurate, easy to clean.
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Old May 12, 2013, 08:09 AM   #23
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I have a Uberti Cattleman and a Henry Big Boy in 45 Colt. Both are a barrel of fun to shoot!!!

I have a Blackhawk .38/357 that I need to get a lever gun to match.

On another note, I used to try to keep to just a couple of calibers but the recent shortages have taught me to diversify and have more of a variety.
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Old May 12, 2013, 03:21 PM   #24
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smee78- I have rifles in both 45 Colt and 44 Magnum so I am familiar with their qualities. The lowly 30-30 (as some consider it) will outshine either.

I never said you can't hunt with a pistol caliber carbine, what I said was that if I am going to carry a rifle for serious purposes, I want one in a serious rifle caliber. The one situation where a pistol caliber carbine makes sense is if one is prohibited from carrying a handgun. Then a compact 357 or 44 rifle is useful.
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Old May 12, 2013, 08:04 PM   #25
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A Ruger 77/357 or levergun in 357 and a gp100 or 686+1 would make a great pair .
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