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Old April 28, 2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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Lartest Step on my Pietta 51 Navy - Defarb

I bought a new Pietta 1851 Navy from Dixie Gun Works last year in my return to C&B revolvers. Since then I've attempted four projects.

Encouraged by what I found on this forum, I tuned it to improve the bolt fit in the cylinder notches and de-burred the internals.

Then I removed the "Pietta tail" from the grip and reshaped and refinished the wood grips for a better fit.

Next I "antiqued" it to resemble a well used 150 year old handgun.

Today in the next step, I've removed the the offending Pietta and black powder only stampings from the sides of the barrel.

I did this by draw filing followed by sanding followed by antiquing.

Turned out better than I thought it would.
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Old April 28, 2013, 04:38 PM   #2
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Looks pretty spiffy to me. I like the color.
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Old April 28, 2013, 04:58 PM   #3
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Looks great!
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Old April 28, 2013, 05:05 PM   #4
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Looks good.
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Old April 28, 2013, 05:39 PM   #5
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Yes...

I like the finish on the pistol.

Give me some ideas.
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Old April 28, 2013, 07:58 PM   #6
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Nice loooooking peestol Mr. Roshi!

I did one some time ago but I do not shoot it as my fat fingers are a kinda tight fit in that small trigger guard and the gun has a "hair trigger". It was pretty well used when I bought it. I don't need any accidents so it made a good antiquing project.
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Old April 30, 2013, 08:01 AM   #7
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yeah, that is the look I am trying to go for on the Griswold repro I'm workin on! How did you do that finish? That is exactly what I am aiming for!
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Old April 30, 2013, 09:30 AM   #8
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My method

I'd advise you search on this forum for various recipes.

Experiment, you can always get back to a white metal finish.

I remove all the bluing using either Birchwood Casey Rust & Blue Remover or white vinager.

Then I let it rust a little to discolor the metal in spots and remove it partiallly with extra fine steel wool. You may get the effect you're after with this treatment. You may have to repeat the rusting and steel wooling.

You can also apply cold bluing and then remove it with diluted white vinager and rinse with water followed by light steel wooling and then finished with a light coat of oil. Please do remember to remove all rust from the cylinder chambers and the bore!

If you don't like the way it turns out you can start all over again. Some vinager, steel wool, followed by rinsing and bit of metal polish (Flitz) will bring it back to a white metal finish.

Many use browning solutions.

When you are at the rust stage from the vinager if you drop the parts in boiling water the rust will often turn black which is actually a form of rust bluing. You can then use steel wool to get to a true blue or work with diluted vinager on a rag to get what you like.

Please note that unless you rinse the parts thoroughly with water or neutralize the vinager (acetic acid) with baking soda, the vinager will continue to work on the finish.
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Old April 30, 2013, 11:09 AM   #9
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This is my pistol I use in the National "As Issue" matches. I defarbed it and
used vinegar on it followed with a coating of mustard.

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Old April 30, 2013, 01:20 PM   #10
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Damn fine work there!
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Old April 30, 2013, 01:31 PM   #11
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Sweet! I'm going to try the vinegar technique, I have some birchwood casey plum brown, but I think I'm going to give your technique a whack. I don't really want it brown, I just want it to look aged.
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Old April 30, 2013, 05:23 PM   #12
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do you immerse the pieces into the vinegar, or just brush it on. Reason I ask is for the bore and the cylinders before I do something I'll regret, lol!
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Old April 30, 2013, 06:09 PM   #13
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Roshi . . . you did a great job on that Navy! It really looks great! I'm partial to Navies and especially those that look like they have been around the block a few times. You can be proud of your work!


kwhi - Your Remmie looks like it just came out of a Cavalry trooper's holster after long use in the war. I've got a Remmie Navy that will be on the way to looking that way as soon as I can get to it. I'm in the process of making new leather for it now so it will have to wait for a while.

Thanks for sharing the photos with us fellas . . . nice pics of nice guns!
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Old April 30, 2013, 06:20 PM   #14
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Technique

You can immerse the parts for the quickest process. I never worry about the bore or chambers. I clean them later. You could however coat them with bore butter or vaseline or grease to keep the vinegar off them.

If you don't intend to remove all the bluing then hand applying the vinegar would give you more control.

kwhi - that Remmie looks sweet!
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Old April 30, 2013, 06:38 PM   #15
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I wrapped the gun in vinegar soaked paper towel overnight.
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Old April 30, 2013, 07:32 PM   #16
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Thanks for the intel, fellas! I still have one stuck nipple in the cylinder (go figure), so after various oils, different wrenchs, etc. I went and bought a propane torch set, so I can try some heat on it. Then, I can proceed with the antiqueing process.
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Old May 6, 2013, 04:42 PM   #17
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How did you do the antiquing? Did you just sand blast the bluing off and apply a chemical?
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Old May 6, 2013, 05:31 PM   #18
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I prolly went further than any of y'all would want to but I like it.

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Old May 6, 2013, 05:37 PM   #19
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I don't think you went too far Hawg . . . I think it has a lot of "character" . . . . sort of like a gal I used to date many years ago . . sort of "rode hard and put away wet". To anyone looking at your shootin' iron . . . I can just hear their thoughts . . . "gee, if it could only talk!"
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Old May 6, 2013, 05:38 PM   #20
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Dang Hawg, that is beautiful work man!
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Old May 6, 2013, 06:02 PM   #21
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Thanks y'all.
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Old May 6, 2013, 06:51 PM   #22
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Your grips need to be beat up some to match. I took a pair of vice grips to
Mine, beat it and squeezed them.
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Old May 6, 2013, 07:31 PM   #23
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kwhi43@kc.rr.com That gun has been through more roughness than an original that survived the CW. Its been dropped, thrown, dunked in a river a few times, gone through a flood and been rode around in the back of pickup trucks. It has a few dings in the grips but they still had maybe half of the original varnish on them. I took the rest of the varnish off is all I did. I don't think I've ever seen an original with grips as beat up as yours. They do look good tho but I think I'll leave mine as is.
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Old May 6, 2013, 07:47 PM   #24
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One sweet revolver!

Nice work Hawg
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Old May 6, 2013, 08:53 PM   #25
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Some beautiful work there fellas. All very nice. I probably will never take the time to defarb any of mine, but damn, those are nice!!
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