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Old April 17, 2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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After Boston is our reloading hobby at serious risk?

Apparently, gun powder was used in Boston. I assume this means the Congress will try to restrict or ban gun powder purchases at the federal level.

I'm posting this in the reloading and not the "law" section because it belongs here.
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Old April 17, 2013, 12:30 PM   #2
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Can you post a link or source for this claim:
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Apparently, gun powder was used in Boston
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Old April 17, 2013, 12:44 PM   #3
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I think we should assume our hobbies and our rights are always at risk. The progressives among us will use anything they can to further their agendas. Never let a good disaster go unexploited! Right?

There has already been talks about banning reloading. This is nothing new. As freedom loving Americans we must always be vigilant and steadfast in our beliefs and our fight against evil. Yes evil.

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Old April 17, 2013, 12:48 PM   #4
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Personally, I'm hoping that they focus on the pressure cookers.
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Old April 17, 2013, 01:02 PM   #5
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I'm sorry but this ISN'T a reloading topic.

Restrictions and/or bans on gunpowder are legal issues, not reloading issues.

Moving to Law and Civil Rights...
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Old April 17, 2013, 01:14 PM   #6
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I think we should assume our hobbies and our rights are always at risk. The progressives among us will use anything they can to further their agendas. Never let a good disaster go unexploited! Right?

There has already been talks about banning reloading. This is nothing new. As freedom loving Americans we must always be vigilant and steadfast in our beliefs and our fight against evil. Yes evil.
Couldn't agree more. The graspers will always seize every opportunity available. If not yesterday, then the next thing. Get used to it.
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Old April 17, 2013, 01:21 PM   #7
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I agree, they will exploit every tragedy to benefit their cause to remove our rights that my friend is the liberal way.
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Old April 17, 2013, 01:44 PM   #8
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there are new ammo purchase laws in ny, ct, mass....I assume federal restrictions are next.
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Old April 17, 2013, 01:47 PM   #9
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I'm not going to do their dirty work for them, so am not going to make any sort of predictions, but that is always a possibility. There is no excuse for not keeping vigilant in these times.
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Old April 17, 2013, 02:54 PM   #10
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I hope that was not the case(gunpowder).... but if it was..... i can see the liberals wanting to restrict.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:34 PM   #11
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Great, now there will be a run on reloading components. Smokeless and black powder will be impossible to find for the next year.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:39 PM   #12
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Great, now there will be a run on reloading components.
NOW there will be?!

Now?

There's been a run on reloading components since at least Newtown, if not since the election.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:39 PM   #13
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Great, now there will be a run on reloading components. Smokeless and black powder will be impossible to find for the next year.
Um, there aren't any to MAKE a run on. Aside from oddball calibers, you can't find anything in that aisle or on Natchesz, Midway, etc either.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:54 PM   #14
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There's been a run on reloading components since at least Newtown, if not since the election
Yeah. That makes it double hard on potential terrorists!

Has there been any proposal to go after gunpowder? If not, we're really just throwing stuff at the wall here.
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:55 PM   #15
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Why don't they just ban explosives in general?

Oh wait...
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Old April 17, 2013, 04:57 PM   #16
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Has there been any proposal to go after gunpowder? If not, we're really just throwing stuff at the wall here.
Way too early for that. They only announced smokeless powder on the news last night, and everyone's busy voting today.
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Old April 17, 2013, 05:21 PM   #17
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I live in NY.

YES - NY went after gunpowder. Starting next year, ammo purchases over the Internet in NY have been banned. Since powder is classified by the ATF as "ammo" shippers are likely to refuse to deliver powder to non-FFL NY addresses.

Can this happen at the federal level? Sure!
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Old April 17, 2013, 09:01 PM   #18
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The Constitution gives us the right to "keep and bear arms" but it doesn't say anything about the right to load them, does it?

I don't think the framers of our Constitution could envision the nature of today's government well enough to protect us from everything that modern governments can do to us.

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Old April 17, 2013, 09:06 PM   #19
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There's been a run on reloading components since at least Newtown, if not since the election.
Shhhh. Don’t tell anyone in my area. At the last local gun show, there was an abundance of reloading components. Prices may have been up, just a bit, but there was plenty of it for sale.

Loaded ammo? That’s another story. Same gun show had bulk pack 550 count .22LR for $100 and Tulammo .223 for $1.50 a round.
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Old April 18, 2013, 02:03 PM   #20
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Yesterday,I thought about this.I had not yet heard anything.

Two things:

This administration never lets the truth get in the way of a good story.I predicted,no matter what any tests actually show,the news release will be twisted to blame it on reloading powder.
Never let a crisis go to waste to further the agenda.

Then I thought about "Fast and Furious"

To further the agenda of anti-gun laws,thousands of AK's and such were allowed to escape to Mexico.

When gundealers contacted the BATF to alert them of quantity purchases,they were told "Sell them,its part of the plan"

What did our administration suppose these guns would be used for?

IMO,they knew the people of Mexico would suffer tragedies similar to Sandy Hook.How did that work out?

The only reason this plan was not successful,the truth showed up.The administration was connected to the AK's in the hands of the cartels via F+F.

Of course,the people of Mexico do suffer,it is just distant.

Embarrassing.F+F was buried.

Yet it demonstrates what the administration would do to advance the agenda.

Progress. The intent of F+F was blood and death in Mexico to advance restrictive gun laws.

It has been demonstrated that colateral damage to advance the political agenda ia a possibility.

If,indeed,it is proved that smokeless powder was used in the Boston bombs,

Disturbing questions arise.
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Old April 18, 2013, 04:07 PM   #21
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Has there been any proposal to go after gunpowder?
Has anyone found an actual confirmation that gun powder was used?
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Old April 18, 2013, 04:39 PM   #22
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Has anyone found an actual confirmation that gun powder was used?
Not that i'm aware of.
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Old April 18, 2013, 07:32 PM   #23
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I'm not really a tinfoil hat type guy but, we're having trouble getting guns. We're told it's rise in demand. Okay, that makes sense.

We're having trouble getting ammo. We're told it's our fault, it's hoarding behavior. No, no, it has nothing to do with large ammo orders placed by the government. Okay...I guess that makes sense too, kinda makes sense anyway. Doesn't them buying even in moderate size batches right now reduce our civilian supplies though?

The only other alternative is reloading. Okay, I'll just do that then. But...Supplies are already slim. Hoarding again according to those in the know. Okay, again, I guess, It didn't seem to me like there were many people who were into reloading, but maybe a lot of folks are thinking like me.

Now comes this bombing and you know darn well if gunpowder was involved we will see a strong attempt to restrict access to it.

Our Presidency is based around a successful Chicago Politician. I grew up in the city that was dominated by crooked union thugs and mob bosses. It was pretty ugly until the Steel Mill shut down. The Italian mob problems were documented as starting in the early 1900's. I know what that means, ruthless, capable of almost anything, and regardless of party affiliation, used to making ugly back alley deals to accomplish their goals.

Okay, I'm sorry, now this is starting to sound like a bad conspiracy movie. Each fact is easily explained, but you start looking at them together they are starting to stink.

What occurs to me is this; how much time and money would it take to accumulate this list a year ago?

1) One fairly inexpensive normal capacity(10+ rounds) 9mm pistol, 2-3 magazines, and 500-1000 rounds good SD ammo for it.

2) One reasonably priced AR or other similar functioning Semi(.223), 3-5 normal capacity(20-30 round) magazines and 500-1000 rounds good ammo for such.

How much time and money would it take now, and how many more jurisdictions is it going to be illegal in six months from now?

I'm not ready to put my tinfoil hat on yet, but I'm definitely a getting a great deal more skeptical. I think it's time to start looking hard at proof for any new or continuing excuses. I believe these explanations for now, but.....
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Old April 18, 2013, 07:49 PM   #24
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And next it will be bans on charcoal, saltpeter and sulphur...

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