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Old April 14, 2013, 11:18 PM   #1
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10X Fixed Power Rifle Scope, still relevant?

While checking out some scopes on midwayusa the other day, I came across a Bushnell 10X fixed power scope.

I believe the fixed power (often 10X) was the standard for military/long range shooters.

I don't see many 10X scopes, has this lost relevance and been replaced by a particular variable range?
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Old April 15, 2013, 01:18 AM   #2
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I think it turned into preference. Nothing wrong with a fixed x10. Personally I would use it for a range rifle or where close shots won't happen at all. I usually prefer smaller fixed power scopes say around a 2.5 up to maybe a 6. But if a 10 fits your needs, then by all means enjoy it.
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Old April 15, 2013, 01:40 AM   #3
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Way too much magnification for any shooting I do on any regular basis, whether for target shooting or hunting.

A 4-12x does everything I need it to do inside 150 yards, and likely farther than that but I don't have enough open space to be able to shoot much farther than that. It is spring time here, I walk outside and the woods are a wall of green.

Personally If I was going to use a fixed power I would be frustrated by anything more than 4x. I like having the variable power for when I need more magnification.
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Old April 15, 2013, 07:18 AM   #4
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They just fill a smaller bill than a variable does. A fixed power is great for targets that are always a known distance away, but a variable is better when the targets are at various ranges. I have 2 fixed power scopes, both are Leupolds with fine cross-hairs. One is a 7.5 power and the other is an 8 power.
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Old April 15, 2013, 09:04 AM   #5
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I use to use a Weaver T-10 on my 1000 yard bolt gun (Model 70, 300 WM) and still use that scope, have been for over 35 years.

I have started using a Weaver 3-10 power on my Model 70 308 target rifle, its a Mil/Mil using the 2 focal plane (meaning the Mil Dot system only works on the higher power (10X), I never use the variable power features.

Yes the 10X is relevant in target shooting. I like a lower power in my hunting rifles, more along the lines of a fixed 4X but that's just me.
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Old April 15, 2013, 09:56 AM   #6
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Interesting, thanks for the responses.

Glad to hear that some folks still like fixed power scopes. I like the 3x/4x too, just didn't know if the 10x was still in use and if so, how.
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Old April 15, 2013, 04:56 PM   #7
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O have a 10x50 I used to use on my 22 for long range shooting and used to have it on my .308 when I was doing a lot of 200 yard shooting matches but otherwise I don't use it much. My 3-9X 40 has better optics and is more practical for the shorter ranges I usually shoot at otherwise it would still be on one of my guns.
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Old April 16, 2013, 02:37 AM   #8
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The bushnell fixed 10x currently selling in the $200 range has a fair reputation as a good scope for the money. Its not a NIghtForce or a MkIV, but it will do.

It fills a role for those wanting a tactical type high magnification (well sort of high) scope at a decent price. I have one on a .22 heavy barrel that's used as a practice/trainer at 100 yds. It would go well on a .223 or .308 heavy barrel rig that you didn't want to soak a lot on money into as well.

The fixed 10x Bushnell is not parrallex adjustable. Inside 60 yds or so things are a blur and the scope is not useable on small targets at that range. A drawback on a .22 for sure. Mine will come off the .22 someday for that reason. When it does I will likely buy a budget stock for my F-TR rifle and plunk the fixed 10x on the combo for a lighter, more portabel centerfire.

The clicks are solid and defineable, and the target knobs easy to grab and settable to your zero. There is not a zero stop, but that can be jury rigged. Mine has green numerals and hash marks and they are a genuine pain to see in anything but perfect light. There is a world of adjustment to it (90 minutes I think) and that should get a .308 on target to way out there. Combined with a 20MOA base there is not reason you would not have enough adjustment to get to well past 1000 yds.

The Bushnell is a cheap way to get into the world of mil dot ranging , come ups and hold offs, without spending a bunch of cash. So far mine has held up to a lot of clicks on the .22.
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Old April 16, 2013, 08:49 PM   #9
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I also have the Bushy 10x (on a K-31), solid scope for the $$.

The other big player in 10x is the SWFA Super Sniper- for three bills, an exceptional value.

Obviously, fixed 10x isn't going to work for rapid target acquisition (game) at closer ranges. But for target that isn't a consideration...

It costs less to manufacture a fixed vs. a variable in general, so the idea is that you get more precision- better quality glass, more precise tracking- for the same dough as you'd pay for a "lesser quality" variable.

I mainly shoot steel at 600-1000, and I'm probably going to pick up a SS in fixed 16x or 20x for a rifle I'm finishing now.
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Old April 19, 2013, 06:00 PM   #10
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I have an old Weaver T10 on a bull barrel .308 that's good out to 1/2 mile(for me anyway). Not my first choice for hunting anything that moves around much but static targets are in serious danger.
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Old April 19, 2013, 06:14 PM   #11
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I also have the bushnell 10x on a k31, its a good scope. Its not super clear, but it is clear enough. I have shot successfully to 600 yards with it. I did the math, turned it the calculated number of clicks and was on target. I did the same thing to dial it back to 100 yards when i was done. repeatability is good.

Its not a really high end scope, but for the money it is everything you need it to be.
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Old April 19, 2013, 07:30 PM   #12
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Here is a USMC 10X Unertil Scope for you on the CMP Auction.

Cheap

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/
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Old April 22, 2013, 04:04 PM   #13
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I purchased this scope recently and put it atop my daughter's Savage Model 12 .22-250. She will use this set up for target shooting out to 100 yards for the time being. I took it to the range and zeroed it and was very pleased with it. I plan on putting one atop my .280 Interarms.
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Old April 25, 2013, 11:58 AM   #14
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I have an old Weaver K10 that I will be using tomorrow. Also have a T16 on a Ruger M77v 22-250 that works just fine.
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Old April 26, 2013, 10:32 AM   #15
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I have been shooting a 16X small bore prone, tried a 20X, the field of view was less and was not able to read wind changes as well. I don't think I am going to try a magnification less than 16X.

At 1000 yards my 20X Leupold does not provide as much magnification as I want, I have used a 6X at that range, and while I could see mirage very well, it was lacking in magnification.
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Old May 3, 2013, 06:27 PM   #16
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My old 10x Leupold still sits on my favorite varmint rifle and always will.
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Old May 6, 2013, 01:26 PM   #17
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Anything over 4 power and I go variable. The variable power is simply more versatile.


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Old May 9, 2013, 12:44 AM   #18
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Re: 10X Fixed Power Rifle Scope, still relevant?

That's interesting. I do like 3 and 4X fixed power scopes. But have never had a higher power fixed power scope.
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Old May 9, 2013, 02:44 PM   #19
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;) LOL

Tell me again what you can't do with a 10X please.



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Old May 11, 2013, 11:29 AM   #20
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The 10X50 Schmidt & Binder has been the standard scope issued to Royal Marine Snipers for use on their A.I. .338 LaPua rifles.
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Old May 22, 2013, 09:14 PM   #21
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Magnification size aside, as I see it, there are only a few reasons to choose a fixed power scope over a variable: there are less parts and adjustments to go wrong ("in a fixed magnification scope the erector lenses are held inside a stationary tube. In variable scopes this tube slides back and forth, cammed by the turning of a ring on the outside of the scope"); they are generally lighter, less bulky and cheaper than their equivalent variable counterparts and fixed scopes tend to be a little brighter at their magnification level when compared to an equivalent variable scope. Only a few reasons to opt for a fixed power scope over a variable to be sure (and there are a few disadvantages), but they are very good reasons to consider buying a fixed scope (if the power size fits your requirements) over a variable model.
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Old May 22, 2013, 09:26 PM   #22
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OK Boys and Girls.........don't like 10X try this one.

Its a Remington 24X. Nice 22 target scope but not something you want for anything else. I tried to use it on PD's but too hard to find them.

Still a great accurate scope. I've had it about 35 years and still use it.

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Old May 22, 2013, 09:34 PM   #23
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I had a fixed 10 power on the DMR that the Corps gave me for a year (Tuned up M1A with a Leupold LR/T). I liked the scope so much one now sits on top of my Remington 700 VSS.
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Old May 22, 2013, 10:04 PM   #24
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10X Lyman Super Targetspot

I have used a 10X Super Targetspot for many years on my High Wall. It's a 219 Improved Zipper by Floyd Butler.

I also have a 10 Lyman Wolverine, 15 Unertl Ultra Varmint and a 30X Supertargetspot.

The 10X is excellent for chucks.

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Old May 22, 2013, 10:32 PM   #25
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What do you all find the upper limits of a 10x scope to be?
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