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Old March 23, 2013, 05:55 PM   #1
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flintlock pistol

I have a friend that is on his way to the other side. He has no family, only good friends. He has given me his collection of many unique firearms. This is one of the flintlocks. Was wondering if anyone can help identify.
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Old March 23, 2013, 07:06 PM   #2
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have you tried resizing it?
I personally have an account with photobucket.com and just upload to them and imbed the direct link URL with the insert image tool.
without a picture it's very hard to offer any advice or input.
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Old March 23, 2013, 07:29 PM   #3
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flintlock pistol

Finally figured how....

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Old March 23, 2013, 07:43 PM   #4
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if the pictures posted on the other sights just post the address to your theads there, that way we can at least navigate around to being able to see them.
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Old March 24, 2013, 06:18 AM   #5
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I think I got it now......

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Old March 24, 2013, 09:05 AM   #6
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To post pic's here they need to be on a host site like photobucket. Then you just copy and paste the "IMG" tag.
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Old March 24, 2013, 10:08 AM   #7
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Does this work?






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Old March 24, 2013, 10:15 AM   #8
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Or this?




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Old March 24, 2013, 11:33 AM   #9
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it's an interesting piece for sure, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it might be french. have to taken the barrel out of the frame. usually the underside of the barrel has a set of proofs stamped underneath to show it was test fired or even who made it. are there any markings stamped or etched into the metal that's visable?
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Old March 24, 2013, 03:52 PM   #10
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The frizzen spring is a replacement (it extends outside the lockplate, which an original would not do), and the ramrod has either been cut or is a replacement.

Other than that, it appears to be in good condition. IMHO, it is English, c.1750.

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Old March 24, 2013, 06:15 PM   #11
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Took barrel out of frame....
This is what I found.

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Old March 24, 2013, 07:15 PM   #12
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James K. You state The frizzen spring is a replacement (it extends outside the lockplate, which an original would not do)
Check out these, they are very... closeAntique Pistols - collection - BOLK ANTIQUES European Clocks ...
Click photo for more details ... A superb pair of Liege Flintlock Pistols by
THIERMAY a LIEGE, circa 1730, caliber 16 mm, length 49 cm, in mint condition.
Price on ...
http://www.bolk-antiques.nl/index.cf...atname=Antique Pistols in design

Question, are these completely taken apart, meticulously cleaned up and reassembled to look this good?
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Old March 24, 2013, 08:11 PM   #13
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The springs will sometimes go to the edge of the lockplate, but the one on your gun appears to extend well beyond the edge, and I don't think a quality maker would do that. Plus the spring looks newer than the rest of the lock. I do think the pistol is of reasonable quality and wonder if you found any evidence of a maker's name.

Since I don't see any sign of English proof marks, I will take back my opinion on it being English. But it is not some repro or mid-east "tourist gun"; it was definitely made for use.

The marking on the barrel means nothing to me; let's see if someone else can help.

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Old March 24, 2013, 09:11 PM   #14
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Frizzen does not seem to be much different in size to lock compared to the ones in the Bolk-Antiques sight. Trigger guard and side plate are a bit similar to the pistols on their sight also.


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Old March 26, 2013, 01:34 PM   #15
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edited: Thought your last pics were of your gun. Got all excited for nothing.
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Old March 30, 2013, 06:12 PM   #16
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Sorry if I mislead you Noel. I just posted the URL pic's to show similarities of the two. Should have explained better in my post.
New to the Forum, hopefully a fast learner.
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Old April 13, 2013, 03:59 PM   #17
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Can anyone see what I can't?

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Old April 13, 2013, 05:26 PM   #18
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It might help to bring out the markings on the lockplate if you take a white crayon and lightly rub it over the etched area; that'll fill in the etchings, and make it easier to read.
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Old April 13, 2013, 08:12 PM   #19
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My final answer is cambier. That is the name of an early cannon maker in Europe. maybe it is a commemorative edition.
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Old April 14, 2013, 04:11 AM   #20
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I took the picture through a jewelers loop. There is something else just below the Cambier engraving. Will try white crayon and different lighting and hopefully figure it out. Will also do some research on Cambier....
Will post pic's if so.
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Old April 14, 2013, 05:49 AM   #21
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Found this about Jehan Cambier... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...FrL1uHLKp3RGQA
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Old April 15, 2013, 02:08 PM   #22
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The name appears to be Cambier, but it cannot be the same man who made arms for James II of Scotland. IMHO, that pistol dates to the early 1700's, and James II died in 1460.

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Old April 15, 2013, 04:19 PM   #23
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I think the bigger question here is if you can find a shoulder holster for this fine piece because you can't have guns you don't carry!
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Old April 16, 2013, 05:47 AM   #24
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Old April 16, 2013, 09:44 AM   #25
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In any event, IMO a pretty nice rocklock pistol - I especialy like the gargoyle faces & characters, etc.




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