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Old March 18, 2013, 08:05 PM   #1
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My last Ruger

OK, I'm mad at Ruger.

I had problems with my Vaquero in the past having tight throats. I sent it back, they did nothing. I bought a reamer and fixed it myself.

Now I have a new Shopkeeper Bearcat. The chambers are so tight my Winchester ammo won't fit, and the federal will fire form in a way that it's imossible to extract.

They replaced the cylinder, but still it's too tight to chamber a Winchester round.

So that's it. If I have to buy another reamer to fix this POS that's the last time Ruger gets my money.
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Old March 18, 2013, 08:43 PM   #2
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Maybe its time to give Taurus a try?
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Old March 18, 2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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S&W

Can't go wrong with a good ol' fashion Smith & Wesson!!
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Old March 18, 2013, 09:29 PM   #4
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Are you interested in selling and/or trading? I am being serious BTW
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Old March 18, 2013, 09:30 PM   #5
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I love my taurus 85 snub! It outshoots my smith snub all day every day!

The all metal Tauri are great. The poly's .... Not so much.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:22 AM   #6
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Good ole s&w makes too many truds today all on its own. Buy a firearms today is trial and error with production as high as it is and parts assembers do one step of production only to pass it off to another. Not many skilled people like from days gone by.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:39 AM   #7
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It happens, just polish the chambers. I've had to do this with a handful of .22 revolvers. At present I've had two and a half dozen Rugers go through my hands and only ever had to send one back.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:42 AM   #8
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I have bought my last Ruger as well. I've been a sucker for them for a lot of years ( I've had more than a dozen of them) , all have had issues.
My last was a MKIII target that would not group ANYTHING close to 1" at 10 yds.
Never again!
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:05 AM   #9
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And the Taurus hatred continues. On wait, the OP is talking about a Ruger!
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Old March 19, 2013, 12:12 PM   #10
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Wow sorry you have such problems

nither my son's or mine have had any problems

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Old March 19, 2013, 01:01 PM   #11
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Perhaps you should clean it.
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:05 PM   #12
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Big Ruger fan and I'm sorry to hear about problems. My local gun store recently sent back some Ruger 1911s due to slide fit. I heard the Ruger plants are going 24/7 and they haven't gotten the new CNC machines up and running yet.
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:14 PM   #13
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What gets me isn't that they made a revolver with a defect, it's that I sent it back, with a letter telling them what's wrong, and they still say FU and send it back knowing the problem is still there.

It's just crappy service.

Looks like I can get a reamer for $45 from Brownells.
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:17 PM   #14
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Did they (Ruger CS) really say FU??

What did they really say about your problem?
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:56 PM   #15
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They replaced the cylinder. The holes are still too small. I would have liked them to measure the chambers then cut them to their proper size.
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:59 PM   #16
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It's a very rare thing hearing about poor service from Ruger.
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Old March 19, 2013, 08:14 PM   #17
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I have many of their products. I know nothing of the customer service as I never had to send any of them back.
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Old March 19, 2013, 08:15 PM   #18
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I have owned 12 Ruger handguns and have had a total of two problems over the last 30 years, one a Mk I magazine that disliked feeding some brands, and the other, the basepin retainer unscrewed and took off for the wilds on a .44 Mag Vaquero. All things considered, I'm pleased with them.

Saying Ruger told you to ....obscenity... is pretty strong language, and I take leave to doubt we should take you literally. It would support your position better if you were willing to tell us what Ruger actually said, and why you interpret it the way you are.

I think that one should always consider whether one is getting an unsatifactory response from a business, or just one from someone at the business.

I can't speak to what Ruger is producing today, haven't bought anything produced in the past year, but they have always been good in the past.
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Old March 19, 2013, 08:21 PM   #19
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Did you check the bore with a bore gage and ask Ruger what their tolerances are? Is it in that tolerance or under? Perhaps giving Ruger the actual I.D. what you measure and compare to what they measure might get better answers and results.
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Old March 19, 2013, 08:25 PM   #20
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I am sorry to hear of your disappointment, but also consider the business aspect. Ruger is, after all, a for-profit business. How long does it take to have someone machine your original cylinder to acceptable specs? For comparison, how long does it take to have someone pull out a cylinder from the pile of cylinders and stick a new one in? The difference in time is lost money from Ruger's perspective. However, that only holds true if the 2nd cylinder actually functions correctly. To my mind, the problem is not so much that you got a poorly-sized cylinder, but that you got 2 of them.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:09 PM   #21
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@ Sneaky Steve

The Winchester round that you are trying to chamber wouldn't happen to be a reload would it?
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:16 PM   #22
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The Winchester round that you are trying to chamber wouldn't happen to be a reload would it?

I believe the Shopkeeper Bearcat is a .22 rimfire.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:25 PM   #23
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It is not unknown for a lot of ammo (a "lot" meaning a batch, not a large quantity) of .22 ammo to be on the large side of the spec or even a tad over. If a gun won't accept any other brand or any other lot, then it's the gun; if it is only one lot, or one box, the problem may be the ammo.

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Old March 19, 2013, 09:33 PM   #24
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+1 cant go wrong with a S&W revolver....always liked my rugers but, my smiths will always be my favorite..
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Old March 20, 2013, 07:32 AM   #25
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@ Buck,

Actually, I had the Vaquero on my mind when I asked that question.
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