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Old March 18, 2013, 07:34 PM   #1
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Once fired brass

Dumb question, anyone know where to get some once fired 9mm brass to reload
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Old March 18, 2013, 08:45 PM   #2
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https://www.diamondkbrass.com/Handgun-Brass-DKB/


I'm actually surprised that they have the 500 rounds left...
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Old March 18, 2013, 08:49 PM   #3
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Once Fired Brass

I purchased 3k from them in February. Be patient. Don't bother to call or email them. You won't hear from them. They'll send you a note when they ship. Reasonable price.


http://www.kbarcartridge.com/Home.php
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Old March 18, 2013, 09:13 PM   #4
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Just a suggestion: Become a member of Cast Boolit's. Many times first fired brass is advertized by its members and sold at reasonable prices to the site membership. Plus many other firearm related items too. Like here. Cast Boolits members are also a bunch of friendly folks also._

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Old March 18, 2013, 09:13 PM   #5
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Old March 19, 2013, 02:24 AM   #6
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Have you checked the "Buy, Sell and Trade" section on this site?
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:21 AM   #7
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Thanks guys

You guys are a big help, looking for another 1000 to reload for me and a buddy, sorry to the gentleman who wanted to trade, I somehow lost your message, I don't have a 45 and would like some more 22 lr'd, I did read that KBar cartridge.com are not very reliable, of course you'll get complaints about anything from some people, I will check with Diamond and am going to gun show this weekend to fight the crowds
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:37 AM   #8
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Well, if one really wanted to buy in bulk: http://www.govliquidation.com/auctio...ue&words=brass shell casings
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:00 AM   #9
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Re: Once fired brass

I wonder the condition and price those go for? Great link.
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:03 AM   #10
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I saw a post the other day where someone had figured out how to look at the completed auctions on that site, and the ending prices he quoted were all in the $6-7 per pound range.
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:07 AM   #11
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On the price & condition, I've no clue. What I can tell you is that the terms and conditions of sale are somewhere on that site, because I've looked at them before. If I recall correctly (& I make no promises on that), it's "as is," and you have to pick it up. One of the ads I looked at today said something like "GL will tail-gate load." I would not expect the brass to be in the best shape, and a certain percentage will probably only be fit for sending to a scrap metal dealer. That said, I also suspect you'd get enough usable brass that it might be worthwhile, if you had enough reloading buddies with pickup trucks to haul it home. The question then becomes, "How many buddies do I need to split up a ton or two of fired brass?"

Edited to add: Oh, and in answer to that question, I did the math on something like 6,000 lbs of .223 brass one time. Now, it's been a while, so don't hold my feet to the fire on the numbers, but IIRC, I figured out that if I got it all reloaded, I'd have to shoot something like 220 rounds per day, every day, regardless of weather, and live to be ~85 to get through it all.
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:26 AM   #12
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I saw a post the other day where someone had figured out how to look at the completed auctions on that site, and the ending prices he quoted were all in the $6-7 per pound range.
Like this? http://www.govliquidation.com/pastbi...s?eventId=8683

On the main page, look for "Past Bid Results" at the bottom of the page. Click it. All of the different categories will pop up. Look for "Demil Q Fired Cartridge Cases." Click it, and viola!
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:30 AM   #13
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Found it now, thanks! They sure didn't make it easy, did they?

I'm amazed at the size of some of the lots. 23,000 pounds of 5.56 cases??
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:32 AM   #14
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Well, the commercial remanufacturers have to get their brass somewhere, right?
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:35 AM   #15
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True.

Looks like there are some bargains in there. Just saw one that was 148 pounds of .40 S&W brass, in five nice-looking metal ammo cans. Ended up going for $270.
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Old March 19, 2013, 12:29 PM   #16
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try gunbroker
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Old March 19, 2013, 01:42 PM   #17
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Spats,

You running the TFL group buy? lol
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Old March 19, 2013, 01:50 PM   #18
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Beentown71,
It has crossed my mind, but I don't have that kind of time in my schedule. Really, though, it wouldn't be too hard to draft up a joint venture purchase agreement. The hard parts would be figuring out payments, and transport. If everyone could agree to a maximum purchase amount, escrow the money, etc. . . . It's not like it couldn't be done.
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Old March 19, 2013, 04:28 PM   #19
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Re: Once fired brass

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It has crossed my mind, but I don't have that kind of time in my schedule. Really, though, it wouldn't be too hard to draft up a joint venture purchase agreement. The hard parts would be figuring out payments, and transport. If everyone could agree to a maximum purchase amount, escrow the money, etc. . . . It's not like it couldn't be done.
Yep. I am thinking about bidding on the smaller unit coming up in Columbus, OH. Just doing the numbers to see if it is going to be worth the effort. I can pick it up myself.

@ approx 73 pieces of brass per pound the math should work out but going to check the little things. I am sure this round of bids will be higher than the last auctions.
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Old March 19, 2013, 04:49 PM   #20
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Maybe we could set up a few purchases by region. I'd have a heck of a time hauling brass down from Ohio, but if I could find some other buyers in Arkansas, Tennessee, Missouri or Oklahoma, that'd be a different ballgame altogether.
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Old March 19, 2013, 06:33 PM   #21
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Sounds like a good idea but I am running into a number crunching issue...

How many .223 brass per pound should be expected? I am coming up with 73...
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Old March 19, 2013, 06:36 PM   #22
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How many .223 brass per pound should be expected? I am coming up with 73...
That sounds about right. Looking online, I see estimates of 73-75 .223 cases per pound.
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Old March 19, 2013, 06:45 PM   #23
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If that is the case....

Auctions are running around $3 a pound. The one I was thinking about bidding on is 659#s. 659 pounds x 73 a pound = 48,107 pieces of brass. Drop 10% due to crushed and box weight...that gives you around 44,000 pieces of brass.

659 x $3 = $1977

44,000/$1977 = $22.25 per piece

Am I missing something? If not then no thanks.
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Turn your last math over, maybe? You've got it as brass/$. In $/piece, you'd be looking at $1977/44,000 = $0.044/piece.
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:22 PM   #25
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That is what you get for working 2, 18 hour days in a row.
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