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Old March 17, 2013, 10:00 PM   #1
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What is the best off the gun loader to a Pietta 1858

I have been thinking about an off the gun loader for some time. Are any of the any good? Opinions please.
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Old March 17, 2013, 11:11 PM   #2
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I use this one from Powder Inc. Cost around 60.00


I added the spring to it. This is how they come
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Old March 18, 2013, 07:39 AM   #3
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I use the same loader and highly recommend it, don't fool with the cheapos from cabelas...just get the one from powder inc. It's worth the money

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Old March 18, 2013, 09:03 AM   #4
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I use the TOP (Tower of Power) from http://www.biglube.com/ It works great. Dick Dastardly is a Gentleman and very easy to work with. Seems the TOP and the one from Powder Inc. are the reigning champs around here. You will be happy with either. I can load 3 cylinder for my Remington in no time flat. Its very quick and easy. Just mount it on some form of hardwood board to give it a stable platform.
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Old March 18, 2013, 02:06 PM   #5
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Another vote for Powder Inc.
(I gotta get me one of those springs! Great idea!)
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Old March 18, 2013, 02:33 PM   #6
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What is the best off the gun loader to a Pietta 1858

I just ordered one of the Powder Inc ones, to be delivered any day now. So no experience yet.

But forget the one Cabelas sells. Save your money. Or if you really, really want one I'll sell you mine.
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Old March 18, 2013, 03:40 PM   #7
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I've also got the Tower of Power. I've used the one from Powder, Inc. and I'd recommend either. And I also say don't bother with Cabela's model. About all that it's good for is to confirm that a good loader is a good thing to have.
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Old March 19, 2013, 02:02 AM   #8
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Been looking for a good loader. Thanks guys Now I have 2 two check out and one to buy. Do both of these loaders load Walker and Dragoon cyclinders as well?
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:34 AM   #9
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They should, the ram on mine will raise up quite high and the base is adjustable for different size cylinders. My loader included the hardware to be able to load both remington and colt style cylinders and loading ram attachments for 36 and 44 caliber.
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Old March 19, 2013, 09:20 AM   #10
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New to forum and picked up a SS Pietta 58 a couple weeks ago. LOVE IT! I tried the cheapy loader from Cabelas and returned it the next day...junk. I just ordered the one from Powder Inc. and an extra cylinder (stainless of course) from Cabelas. I'm using Pyrodex but hope to be able to find real BP soon. Also followed the advise from a guy to load empty 223 cases with powder charges and cap them with a 22 cases. Should make for fast reloading. Robert
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Old March 19, 2013, 10:54 AM   #11
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I ordered one of the cheap-o loaders from S&S Firearms - as others have said - junk.

You need a loader that guarantees a straight vertical press of the bullet. Any loader that does not use a bushing to insure a vertical press is junk. Any loader that does not have adjustment provisions to move the cylinder directly under the loading ram is junk.

I'm saving my pennies for a good one.

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Old March 19, 2013, 01:11 PM   #12
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The Powder Inc. loader comes with all the pieces you need to load the Dragoon or the Remington I have. Seems to be fully adjustable and even comes with different size Center pieces to fit the larger Colt arbor holes.

My only gripe is they use allen bolts for the adjustments so I stuck a strong magnet to the base to hold the allen wrench it requires. If they used slotted or phillips screws I could use my swiss army knife. Not a big deal, certainly not a deal breaker... I guess I could just change out the screws and be happy... nah, then what would I gripe about?
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Old March 19, 2013, 02:47 PM   #13
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Mines a Powder Inc loader mounted on a old wood cutting board.

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Old March 20, 2013, 11:30 AM   #14
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I like that idea, Tom! I'm going to scoot over to the discount kitchen store on my way home and pick one of those up!
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Old March 21, 2013, 09:52 PM   #15
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Allen head cap screws are a lot better for a lot of use. Slotted head screws are more for tighten it once and leave it alone, i.e. cheap. Just goes to show the quality of the loader. BTW I also own one.
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Old March 22, 2013, 02:12 AM   #16
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What is the best off the gun loader to a Pietta 1858

Well, I mentioned that my Powder Inc loader would be in any day, and it was waiting on me when I got in tonight.

It's a vast improvement over the el cheapo, and looks like I'm going to get plenty of use out of it.

I have to say that both the spring and the cutting board are ideas I'm snarling for myself, too.

Does anyone have both the TOP and the Powder Inc stand? How do the two compare to one another? I think we all agree they blow the doors off the cheapie.
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Old March 22, 2013, 10:57 AM   #17
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After all the above posts I ordered one yesterday.
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Old March 22, 2013, 02:05 PM   #18
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I forgot to mention I have a folding 8 piece Allen wrench tool set. It folds up like a pocket knife and is less than $5.00. Very handy and hard to loose. First started using them years ago when I working in construction and could never find my Allen wrench to change the saw blades on my sawzall and jig saw. Never had a problem after that.
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Old March 24, 2013, 09:21 PM   #19
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Got to use my Powder Inc. loader today. All I can say is WOW! Made for much easier and faster loading. Complete charging of the cylinder and pop it in the gun. Can't wait to get my spare cylinder. Shot 0ver 100 rounds today without any problems. Tried different loads and it looks like my gun likes 30-35 grains of Pyrodex. Was shooting low and to the right with lower amounts but shoots closer to aim point with the 30-35 charge. Still shoots to the right about 2 inches. Next time out will try smaller loads with a filler to bring the ball up closer to the end of the cylinder. Btw I keep my primers in a small medicine bottle and pour out 6 at a time. I had two primers where the primer material came out of the cup. I put them back in and they went off fine. Just thought it was strange that they came apart. Robert
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Old March 25, 2013, 03:59 AM   #20
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I had two primers where the primer material came out of the cup. I put them back in and they went off fine. Just thought it was strange that they came apart.
I have that happen quite often with Remington caps. Never had it happen with CCI.
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Old March 25, 2013, 08:37 AM   #21
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What is the best off the gun loader to a Pietta 1858

Thanks for the suggestions. I just got back from my first CAS meet where I was shooting my 58s. I wish I had an off the gun loader with me there. By the way I was wondering where to get the extra spring for the one from Powder Inc?

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Old March 25, 2013, 08:54 AM   #22
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Ace Hardware has a good selection of springs. Robert
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Old March 25, 2013, 12:44 PM   #23
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Yes, that is where I bought the spring. Sure makes it work a whole lot better.
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