Cop in ny with backward site

rduckwor · March 15, 2013, 04:56 PM

Cops in NY state lead the pack!

TATER · March 15, 2013, 05:01 PM

DHS Youth Corp Maybe??

rduckwor · March 15, 2013, 05:13 PM

Possibly. He's got on those cool tactical Levi's.

TATER · March 15, 2013, 05:27 PM

Reminds me of these.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...323_142530.jpg

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/...lice-woman.jpg

http://jurmondsarsenal.files.wordpre...1/img_0243.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...Picture1-2.jpg

Ridge_Runner_5 · March 15, 2013, 07:56 PM

I can almost understand putting in a magazine wrong in a rush in the heat of battle.

But this is an optic we're talking about. It is put on the gun weeks, months before the firefight.

Or maybe the guy saw the movie SALT and thought it looked like a good method...

slappy · March 16, 2013, 08:28 AM

I can understand putting a magazine in backward in the heat of battle but what I can't understand is when you don't feel that mechanical click as it locks into position, that should be a dead giveaway that something is wrong. Trying to put it in backwards maybe, leaving it in backwards, no way!

horatioo · March 16, 2013, 09:01 AM

http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-conte.../herkimer3.jpg

What do you see when you look through this sight the wrong way? Is it like looking through a scope backwards? Is it safe for the public to have police with this ?

Also, I think I would notice this at a range or somewhere similar. Why wouldn't other cops notice and tell him? Or is it not as obvious as it looks?

**Brian Pfleuger** · March 16, 2013, 09:41 AM

Threads merged

KMAX · March 16, 2013, 10:41 AM

Surely, these are simply STAGED photos. These are an example of the kind of things that make LEOs look incompetent no matter how many highly competent LEOs there are out there. I guess there are fools in every profession though.

Will Beararms · March 16, 2013, 10:44 AM

Sorry I cannot get used to our police officers dressing like soldiers. SWAT I understand.

Ruger480 · March 16, 2013, 10:54 AM

Movie pic...

BerdanSS · March 16, 2013, 11:09 AM

Well.....he cant be too smart anyway, he has a grip pod on his AR

He also has his BUIS deployed. Maybe he flipped it up after he couldn't get the eotech to work?

ClydeFrog · March 16, 2013, 03:24 PM

I say fake or a movie-tv set. Someone call the NYPD Movie & TV unit!

ClydeFrog

Auto426 · March 16, 2013, 03:51 PM

He's probably wondering why the manufacturer chose such an odd location for the on/off and brightness controls

teeroux · March 16, 2013, 06:40 PM

Quote:

I believe the EoTech will still work just fine, even if you are looking through the wrong end. They may be wondering why the manufacturer chose such an odd location for the on/off and brightness controls though.

The reticle can not be viewed when viewed backwards through the objective lens.

scrubcedar · March 16, 2013, 06:52 PM

I'm going to go with Clydefrog's answer because I'd have trouble sleeping tonight.
Actually I have to say it makes more sense in reality anyway, I really have to say nearly all movie's/ TV shows get every firearms fact wrong that they can.

Come and take it. · March 16, 2013, 07:03 PM

Never watch movies to learn how to use guns.

**pax** · March 16, 2013, 07:05 PM

We know three things about the officer in this picture.

1) He has never fired that rifle with those sights before. We know this because if he had, he would have fixed the impossible-to-use setup that he has there.

2) Even though he's never used those sights with that gun before, he's trusting his life and the lives of those around him to its accuracy -- and to his ability to use that setup accurately under stress. We know this because he's using it during an actual encounter where lives are at stake.

3) Neither his immediate supervisor nor any of his squad mates know how to use that type of sight, either. We know this because if they did, they would have corrected his error.

That's not a cheap piece of gear.

We can conclude that the people who run his department's budget would apparently rather waste money on cool-looking gadgets than invest in better, more applicable, and more frequent TRAINING for people who bet their lives and the lives of innocent others on their ability to use the gear they have.

pax

**Vanya** · March 16, 2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pax

We can conclude that the people who run his department's budget would apparently rather waste money on cool-looking gadgets than invest in better, more applicable, and more frequent TRAINING for people who bet their lives and the lives of innocent others on their ability to use the gear they have.

More training definitely wouldn't hurt. I think we know a fourth thing about him: either the tip of his right index finger was amputated at some point, or it's on the trigger...

Auto426 · March 16, 2013, 08:55 PM

Quote:

The reticle can not be viewed when viewed backwards through the objective lens.

Whoops, guess what I remember reading about EoTechs was wrong. I've never had an EoTech, but I've been wanting one of the newer EXPS style sights for a while now, just haven't had the courage to spend the money for one yet.

Salmoneye · March 17, 2013, 08:34 AM

Quote:

I think we know a fourth thing about him: either the tip of his right index finger was amputated at some point, or it's on the trigger.

Link to the original ReddiT pic:

http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-conte.../herkimer3.jpg

Sure looks like his finger is on the mag well to me...

Double Naught Spy · March 17, 2013, 09:23 AM

So do we have a source for this photo?

Quote:

We know three things about the officer in this picture.

1) He has never fired that rifle with those sights before. We know this because if he had, he would have fixed the impossible-to-use setup that he has there.

2) Even though he's never used those sights with that gun before, he's trusting his life and the lives of those around him to its accuracy -- and to his ability to use that setup accurately under stress. We know this because he's using it during an actual encounter where lives are at stake.

3) Neither his immediate supervisor nor any of his squad mates know how to use that type of sight, either. We know this because if they did, they would have corrected his error.

Actually, we don't "know" any of that. It is all inferred. It may be that he has fired his rifle with the iron sights, got the Eotech, popped it on and got a call out. You can see through the Eotech backwards and so he can see his iron sights. Since his supervisors know he can still use his iron sights, nobody has seen fit to have to remove the Eotech during the immediate crisis.

BlkHawk73 · March 17, 2013, 10:08 AM

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Sorry I cannot get used to our police officers dressing like soldiers. SWAT I understand.

The police in such a situation I can understand. The wannabee's without the badge is what I don't get. They're the majority of attendees at every gunshow.

xtphreak · March 17, 2013, 11:25 AM

Come on man

You never dressed up to play cowboys & indians?

Really?

(Sarcasm smilie here)

**Vanya** · March 17, 2013, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salmoneye

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanya

I think we know a fourth thing about him: either the tip of his right index finger was amputated at some point, or it's on the trigger.

Link to the original ReddiT pic:

http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-conte.../herkimer3.jpg

Sure looks like his finger is on the mag well to me...

Yep, you're right -- it shows up much better in that version.

March 15, 2013, 04:56 PM	#1
rduckwor Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2008 Location: L.A. - Lower Alabama Posts: 304	New high speed, low drag EOTECH mounting practice Cops in NY state lead the pack! __________________ RMD

March 15, 2013, 05:13 PM	#3
rduckwor Senior Member Join Date: June 26, 2008 Location: L.A. - Lower Alabama Posts: 304	Possibly. He's got on those cool tactical Levi's. __________________ RMD

March 16, 2013, 09:01 AM	#7
horatioo Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2008 Posts: 332	Cop in ny with backward site http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-conte.../herkimer3.jpg What do you see when you look through this sight the wrong way? Is it like looking through a scope backwards? Is it safe for the public to have police with this ? Also, I think I would notice this at a range or somewhere similar. Why wouldn't other cops notice and tell him? Or is it not as obvious as it looks?

March 16, 2013, 09:41 AM	#8
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,656	Threads merged __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. ----- He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

March 16, 2013, 10:41 AM	#9
KMAX Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 792	Surely, these are simply STAGED photos. These are an example of the kind of things that make LEOs look incompetent no matter how many highly competent LEOs there are out there. I guess there are fools in every profession though. __________________ This is my gun. There are many like her, but this one is mine. With Freedom Comes Responsibility!

March 15, 2013, 05:01 PM	#2
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 665	DHS Youth Corp Maybe??

March 15, 2013, 05:27 PM	#4
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 665	Reminds me of these. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...323_142530.jpg http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/...lice-woman.jpg http://jurmondsarsenal.files.wordpre...1/img_0243.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...Picture1-2.jpg

March 15, 2013, 07:56 PM	#5
Ridge_Runner_5 Senior Member Join Date: February 8, 2008 Location: Castle Rock, CO Posts: 1,745	I can almost understand putting in a magazine wrong in a rush in the heat of battle. But this is an optic we're talking about. It is put on the gun weeks, months before the firefight. Or maybe the guy saw the movie SALT and thought it looked like a good method...

March 16, 2013, 08:28 AM	#6
slappy Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Posts: 928	I can understand putting a magazine in backward in the heat of battle but what I can't understand is when you don't feel that mechanical click as it locks into position, that should be a dead giveaway that something is wrong. Trying to put it in backwards maybe, leaving it in backwards, no way!

March 16, 2013, 10:44 AM	#10
Will Beararms Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,579	Sorry I cannot get used to our police officers dressing like soldiers. SWAT I understand. __________________ "Without a rifle you are nothing, worthless, you are waiting for death, any minute, any second." -- Aron Bielski

March 16, 2013, 10:54 AM	#11
Ruger480 Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2013 Posts: 108	Movie pic...

March 16, 2013, 11:09 AM	#12
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Posts: 593	Well.....he cant be too smart anyway, he has a grip pod on his AR He also has his BUIS deployed. Maybe he flipped it up after he couldn't get the eotech to work?

March 16, 2013, 03:24 PM	#13
ClydeFrog Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2010 Posts: 4,007	Fail! I say fake or a movie-tv set. Someone call the NYPD Movie & TV unit! ClydeFrog __________________ Speed's fine, but accuracy's final.

March 16, 2013, 03:51 PM	#14
Auto426 Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,299	He's probably wondering why the manufacturer chose such an odd location for the on/off and brightness controls __________________ *"Si vis pacem, para bellum"* - If you want peace, prepare for war. Last edited by Auto426; March 16, 2013 at 08:53 PM.

March 16, 2013, 06:52 PM	#16
scrubcedar Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2012 Location: Northern UT Posts: 474	I'm going to go with Clydefrog's answer because I'd have trouble sleeping tonight. Actually I have to say it makes more sense in reality anyway, I really have to say nearly all movie's/ TV shows get every firearms fact wrong that they can. __________________ Gaily bedight, A gallant knight In sunshine and in shadow, Had journeyed long, Singing a song, In search of El Dorado

March 16, 2013, 07:03 PM	#17
Come and take it. Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 996	Never watch movies to learn how to use guns.

March 16, 2013, 07:05 PM	#18
pax Staff Join Date: May 17, 2000 Location: Washington state Posts: 6,434	We know three things about the officer in this picture. 1) He has never fired that rifle with those sights before. We know this because if he had, he would have fixed the impossible-to-use setup that he has there. 2) Even though he's never used those sights with that gun before, he's trusting his life and the lives of those around him to its accuracy -- and to his ability to use that setup accurately under stress. We know this because he's using it during an actual encounter where lives are at stake. 3) Neither his immediate supervisor nor any of his squad mates know how to use that type of sight, either. We know this because if they did, they would have corrected his error. That's not a cheap piece of gear. We can conclude that the people who run his department's budget would apparently rather waste money on cool-looking gadgets than invest in better, more applicable, and more frequent TRAINING for people who bet their lives and the lives of innocent others on their ability to use the gear they have. pax __________________ Kathy Jackson My personal website: Cornered Cat

March 17, 2013, 11:25 AM	#24
xtphreak Member Join Date: March 15, 2013 Posts: 19	Re: Cop in ny with backward site Come on man You never dressed up to play cowboys & indians? Really? (Sarcasm smilie here)